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Etrangere ([personal profile] salinea) wrote2010-01-06 05:02 pm
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quizz & poll

Your result for The Fan Fiction Personality Test...

The Mindgamer

Everything is possible, nothing is ever really over.

Fanfiction is a creative outlet for you. You don't intentionally write it, it just happens. You find inspiration in several fandoms, but are not obsessed with only one.


You like to explore "what if" situations. What if this character had never made this very choice? What if this event had taken place sooner, never, elsewhere? What if these people had never met?


You are likely to write Alternative Universes, fan seasons or sequels and just follow your (sometimes pretty strange) plot bunnies.

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[Poll #1508022]

[identity profile] melusinahp.livejournal.com 2010-01-06 04:17 pm (UTC)(link)
If they phrased it that way -- asking me not to use that phrase -- without any explanation, I'd be pissed off. It's very patronising and I'm an adult and capable of making my own choices about the sort of language I use.

If instead of giving me a directive they politely commented explaining to me why they found the phrase upsetting, I'd listen and most likely not use it again.
Edited 2010-01-06 16:18 (UTC)
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[identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com 2010-01-06 04:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Interesting, I hadn't thought of it coming across as patronising.
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[personal profile] trobadora 2010-01-06 04:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Do you really think that requires explanation? I'd think it would be patronising to explain why this is offensive.

[identity profile] ontogenesis.livejournal.com 2010-01-06 04:33 pm (UTC)(link)
I chose the first response. I probably wouldn't use that term anyway-- not after having studied the Holocaust and WWII -- so I know why someone might be offended by a casual use of the word. I also don't like "femmenazi" or "rape" (as in, "this test totally raped me"). PC? Nah, more like I have a healthy respect for the power of words.

[identity profile] melusinahp.livejournal.com 2010-01-06 04:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Telling someone what they should and shouldn't say in their own journal is incredibly patronising and presumptuous, imo. Telling them that their choice of language hurts you is not.

[identity profile] ontogenesis.livejournal.com 2010-01-06 04:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Whoops, didn't mean to use that icon. Stop being cheerful, Sai.

[identity profile] eefster.livejournal.com 2010-01-06 04:35 pm (UTC)(link)
I'd retract it and apologise.

However, I would probably also open a different discussion (not in the same post, and not forcing the person to take part) about what an appropriate -- but still pithy -- substitute would be. I would just want to wait to be sure that the discussion didn't come across as pouty, or deliberately inflammatory.
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[identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com 2010-01-06 04:36 pm (UTC)(link)
okay, I understand the nuance you mean. Useful point I will make use of for the next time ^_^;.

[identity profile] melusinahp.livejournal.com 2010-01-06 04:36 pm (UTC)(link)
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[identity profile] sistermagpie.livejournal.com 2010-01-06 04:37 pm (UTC)(link)
I'd probably do a mixture of a few. I'd ask them what the problem was, then probably edit the post to get rid of them, but think they need to just accept that "nazi" is a commonly used word that doesn't cause offense just by showing up. Edit: Actually, I realized that what I did the second time would probably depend on what their answer was to the question.
Edited 2010-01-06 16:38 (UTC)
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[identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com 2010-01-06 04:37 pm (UTC)(link)
*nods* I like that option.

Mmm, I wonder what makes a good substitute? Canon fanatic? Canon faithful?
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[identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com 2010-01-06 04:39 pm (UTC)(link)
oh yeah, feminazi and "rape" use in silly metaphors both are also big pet peeves x_x

oops... couldn't actually edit.

[identity profile] eefster.livejournal.com 2010-01-06 04:40 pm (UTC)(link)
ETA: I'd probably also prefer that the person commenting say "Please don't use this because I find it offensive" instead of "You shouldn't use that word." I know it treads toward the tone argument, and I would never say that someone should never say it the latter way, but I'll be honest and say which I'd prefer to hear.
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[identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com 2010-01-06 04:40 pm (UTC)(link)
lol

[identity profile] asimaiyat.livejournal.com 2010-01-06 04:40 pm (UTC)(link)
I would retract it and apologize. I want my journal to be a safe place for my friends.

I'd probably change it to "canon police" or something.
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[identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com 2010-01-06 04:43 pm (UTC)(link)
That makes sense to me ^^

Personally I have some issue with the expression (it's milder than "it offends" me, but I think it's still problematic?) because it trivialises the term "nazi", especially since it's usually used with a sort of quixotic pride "haha! I'm such a canon nazi!"
But yeah, I understand for a lot of people it's just a commonly used word, but it makes me wince when I see it anyway.
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[identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com 2010-01-06 04:44 pm (UTC)(link)


ooh, I like canon police!

[identity profile] aubrem.livejournal.com 2010-01-06 04:45 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't throw the word "nazi" around and I shudder at the casual use of the word "rape" in strange contexts, etc etc. These are powerful words and shouldn't be cheapened for shock value.

On the other hand, I'd never tell someone else what to say - especially in their own journal. I wouldn't in public forums either. Maaaaaaybe if they said something offensive in comments in my own journal I'd speak up. It kind of shocks me the way so many fannish people think they have the right to tell other people what to do.

If I felt that someone was using a word and just plain didn't know the impact they were having with it, I might email them privately to explain - in case they were interested, in case they cared. They might appreciate the info.

[identity profile] eefster.livejournal.com 2010-01-06 04:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Depends on what, precisely, the original poster meant. The idea of forcing conformity? That zie feels persecuted?

Wikipedia puts the slang definition as "A person considered unfairly oppressive or needlessly strict" - what other words fit that?

Sorry, that wasn't meant to put it all on you, or to imply I didn't think there were any. Despot, tyrant, fascist*, autocrat, authoritarian....


*could have its own problems.
Edited 2010-01-06 16:48 (UTC)
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Re: oops... couldn't actually edit.

[identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com 2010-01-06 04:49 pm (UTC)(link)
yeah, melusinahp also made that very good point above.

Re: oops... couldn't actually edit.

[identity profile] eefster.livejournal.com 2010-01-06 04:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Oops yes, I meant to give credit.

[identity profile] luminaire.livejournal.com 2010-01-06 04:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Your journal is your journal. I respect your right to say whatever you want in it, even if I don't like what you have to say. I expect the same respect in return.

If you said something so offensive where I felt compelled to speak out, I would at least let you know why it upset me rather than a curt "don't say that again".

[identity profile] flo-nelja.livejournal.com 2010-01-06 04:51 pm (UTC)(link)
I can't say without the context.

Was it used as an insult, comparing people who oppose to OOC to nazis ?

Or did the offense come from the fact the word was used in a playful, non serious way "I can be such a canon nazi sometimes".

If I was to use the first sense (I don't think I would), I'd edit and apologize.

If I was to use the second sense (the only one I would use, so I replied to your poll in this sense), I'd sigh about people being easily offended, and edit it, replacing it with "canon psychorigid", because I don't like to offend people anyway.
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[identity profile] sistermagpie.livejournal.com 2010-01-06 04:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, for me it's not that I don't understand why the word would bother people, just that I think the horse is out of the barn on that one.
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[personal profile] trobadora 2010-01-06 04:52 pm (UTC)(link)
I would never use that kind of language. And if someone on my flist did, I'd assume they didn't mean to - that they just accidentally let an offensive term slip through because they'd heard it too often. If someone made them aware of it, I'd expect an instant "oops, sorry! I did not mean to say that."

Clearly I'm overly optimistic.

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