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I'm lazy and didn't really summarize any of them...


Black Man aka Th1rt3n by Richard Morgan
I found this one to be somewhat disappointing, perhaps because I had too high expectations. It's a fairly well rounded Noir near future/cyberpunk thriller, with a good if not surprising plot and decent if not original world building. The big argument is the race thematics. I have to say there's some very good stuff there. For one, Morgan isn't content with dealing only with metaphors. He uses the genegeered "variants" to deal with the concept of prejudice, of fear and othering sure; but he overlays with a very big presence of characters of colour and is very upfront about it (in fact, that he's up front is almost distracting, it's like he put on neon lights all over his book with "Race and racism issues talked about HERE" - but, fair enough, sometimes that's what's has to be done). There's some very interesting done about the themes of anger, of the necessity to talk quietly and nicely to people, a deconstruction of the Scary Black Man trope. Some of it is subtle enough. There's a overarching narrative of evolutionary psychology applied to those dynamics that is irritating (and kinda oppressive at times), but Morgan does genuine effort to question it in the text at the same time so you could presume it's a narrative of that society not an actual answer. There's some attempt to address intersectionnality's with gender issues : this is one of the part where the book failed, for me. First because the book is entrenched with Male Gaze (not unusual and I probably wouldn't have paid much attention to if not for the neons aforementioned), and arguably resorts to fridging, second because it kept using expressions like "feminised, civilised society" and never questioned it, kept portraying women as essentially less violent and aggressive as an answer to the problematic. Then there's the issue of violence, of our main Thirteen character as an epitome of the violent, tough, independent alpha male which men wanna be and women wanna fuck (the latter part, again, is in the text), as this kind of character as a noir thriller hero and of the visceral pleasure that we the audience and him the writer enjoy reading and writing about - I'm still not sure if that was addressed properly or not. It's not all bad, far from it, and even about gender there's some interesting bits, but not enough for my taste.
My real big issue with the book, though, is the style. The writing sucks. It's cliché-ridden (I can't count the times I rolled my eyes), and very thriller-basic. Dunno how else to describe it, it feels very mechanical. The exposition/discussion of thematics done in dialogue is to a ridiculous point. Seriously, there is no way people would sit done and make philosophical discussions (often while pointing guns at each others) to this amount. The amount of villains who did it the novel is simply laughable. The characterisation is so-so : main character Marsani is great, the others less so.
The world building, as I said, is not original but decent : The Jesusland things is very 2004 and Morgan commits the mistake to think that fanatical = stupid, and you know, Divided States of America isn't exactly a new trope, especially for cyperpunk, but I liked the whole thing about Mars and the breath of the world, the use of the off PoV of a British character on American society, stuff like this.


Dust by Elisabeth Bear
Gorgeous writing (sometimes just a tadbit too purple for my taste but overall very pleasant to read), wonderfully evocative imagery and world building, I got immersed very vividly in this world of a huge, decaying space ship, its odd inhabitants, their complex feuds and Amber-like family and the near-magic-tech. I was much less interested in the plot : the pacing wasn't believable, the stakes too cryptic, and the characters' emotions and relationships were never things I believed in nor cared for. It feels like given more space to develop, a lot more, this could have been a great story, but as it is I only could enjoy the style and the world.


The Dreaming Tree by CJ Cherryh
Celtic fantasy, dealing with faeries. This a pretty good story, although I thought the pacing was sometimes a bit off. I liked some of characters well enough and was sorry when the generational jumps left them behind. Cherryh does magic in it as she always does : in a wonderfully evocative way. Still I wasn't as entranced by it as her best, and the whole celtitude was slightly irritating in a "been done many many many times" way. A minor if pleasant work.


The Beginning Place by Ursula K Leguin
This is a very odd little book, tackling on the good old trope of people from earth transplanted in a fantasy world, and I'm not sure if I have anything definite to say about it beyond the fact that I found it extremely pleasant to read : the writing just flows beautifully, the characters are intriguing and gripping immediately, some of them in a very raw way. I'm not sure what I think of the story, I think maybe I missed the point entirely.Well worth reading anyway.


Black Ships by Jo Graham
A retelling of the Aenid with a more historical bent and seen from the eyes of the Pythya which accompany them. This is a gorgeous book which I loved utterly. In terms of voice, I was seduced immediately by the narrative of Gull, and her life as a child as a slave in a Greek city. The writing is beautiful and just flows. The characterisation is very good as well, especially of Gull but also of the two other main characters Neas and Xandros. The world described is very entrancing as well, well detailed and vivid and made me want to learn more about the History of it. The rendering of the society with its own beliefs, its brutality and the technologies of that time was very believable. My biggest gripe was that sometimes the passage of time was a bit abrupt.
It reminded me of how much I used to love Avalon books by Bradley, you know. I probably wouldn't dare to read them again now, because I'm afraid I'll be disappointed, but Black Ship gave me the same pleasure, the same immediate swept in by the voice that tells her story.


Claudius the God by Robert Graves
I think I liked this one slightly less than I did I Claudius, despite the presence of Herod Agrippa the awesome Jewish trickster (seriously awesome character :)). Perhaps mostly due to reader's fatigue. It's still high quality writing, full of plotting, wittiness and funny anecdotes and generally speaking a great read.


Kushiel's Mercy by Jacqueline Carey
I was complaining of the lack of plot in the previous novel, this one made up for it. It was full of lovely lovely plot and very dramatic and in bigger scope. There was a few utterly fascinating chapters where our narrator Imriel is not himself, taking on another personality, and thus we the reader knew more than him in a way that was extremely fun to read. Otherwise it's your usual Carey : good, if purple, writing, lovable characters, evocative world building. I was getting a bit sick of Imriel and Sidonie before the end, though, mostly due to the fact that people who are deeply in love are really, really boring to me when all the opposition to their love is external. I hope the next time Carey lets this world rest and tries her hand at something else.

Next time, I'll have to do the reviews right after I finish the books, not wait a month and a half in some cases, it makes for sucky reviews... >_>;;

Date: 26 August 2008 03:32 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] hamsterwoman
I really liked the world and Amber-in-space in Dust and didn't care for most of the same things you didn't care about. I mean, I liked Gavin the basilisk and Hero Ng and I was pretty intrigued by Jacob and felt sorry when he, you know, whatever the proper term is for what happened there at the end -- but I really didn't care about any of the living, human characters.

You know it's part of a planned trilogy, right? I think Chill is supposed to come out... well, I don't remember exactly, but it's somewhere on [personal profile] matociquala's LJ, I'm pretty sure, and I forget what the title for #3 is. So, there should be more world after this, which I'm happy about.

I really want to read the LeGuin book you mentioned now (which I didn't realize existed). And this reminds me I should try to track down the last Kushiel book, too...

Date: 26 August 2008 03:36 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com
I thought Jacob was CREEPY. massively creepy. I kept wondering if we were supposed to feel sympathetic to him and WTF with that, but turned out, no, we weren't. I liked Sammael, though. I was rooting for him ^^

I knew about Chill, didn't know there was a third after that.

I didn't know that Leguin book existed until I found it one day either!! It's a YA novel, perhaps that's why.

Date: 26 August 2008 03:47 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] hamsterwoman
I thought Jacob was creepy (but I like creepy :) -- but sort of... not sympathetic, really, but something that elicited emotion more than most of those other characters. Kind of the opposite with Sammael -- I felt like you were supposed to like him, but I didn't feel anything for him at all. I also ended up liking Pinion. It's not that I felt a wing-shaped possessed colony of nanites had a more appealing personality than the protagonists... but I did feel the way its character was done (not least the fact that it actually seemed to have/be a character) was more interesting -- if that makes any sense.

Date: 26 August 2008 03:58 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com
Pinion was well done but underexploited, IMHO. So yeah it makes sense, well a 6 am kinda sense.

Date: 26 August 2008 09:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shiinabambi.livejournal.com
The only one of these I've read is The Beginning Place. As you said, beautiful writing. :) But I'll read anything Le Guin pens.

I think I also may have enjoyed myself immensely and then missed the point. Perhaps a reread is in order for me!

Date: 26 August 2008 09:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] generalblossom.livejournal.com
I am picking up the rec for Black Ships - wishlisted for one day, one of these days.

I actually read that LeGuin in translation, when i was a teenager. I actually remember it but more of a vague impression. Of her early work I read as a teen, maybe I am sf based, but I remember the sf better.

That Cherryh duo I tried to read once, I quit at some early page, and then my copy got accidentally destroyed. It was very Cherryh-like mixed with elves being mysterious, which made it all incomprehensible to me at first read - though I did not persevere.

Date: 26 August 2008 10:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sophiap.livejournal.com
Hmm. Oddly enough, I just put Th1rt3n on my library hold list. I think I'll take it off and replace it with Black Ships. That sounds good.

(I love my library - I can now request books online, and I get an e-mail when the books ready to pick up. It has saved me so much money in recent months.)

Date: 26 August 2008 12:07 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com
I cannot disapprove of this plan :)

I wish I had a library like this! with books in english and stuff!

Date: 26 August 2008 12:08 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com
Black Ships is fabulous, yes! :)

I usually like LeGuin's SF better as well. Not that I dislike the fantasy...

I found the Cherry one hard to get into at the beginning as well.

Date: 26 August 2008 12:09 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com
hahaha, glad I'm not the only one!

Date: 26 August 2008 06:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] williamjm.livejournal.com
The exposition/discussion of thematics done in dialogue is to a ridiculous point. Seriously, there is no way people would sit done and make philosophical discussions (often while pointing guns at each others) to this amount. The amount of villains who did it the novel is simply laughable.

Yes, that was one of my biggest problems with the book as well - for people who are supposedly ultra-aggressive they spend an awful lot of time talking philosophy with their enemies. Although it does have some interesting ideas in it and some parts of it are good at the most basic level it is a thriller that is rarely particularly thrilling. I don't normally think the books I read should have less talking and more action sequences but it might have helped here.

Date: 26 August 2008 08:50 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com
I'm glad I wasn't the only who had this reaction. Yeah, i would have settled with not more action, just less dialogue and a more natural way to insert the themes into the narrative. Not that it is easy, of course, but good writers should do that, heh!

Date: 1 September 2008 08:43 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] rebbe
I've not read any of these, but your reviews are really interesting to read! I'll try to keep these titles in mind -- at least, the ones that got the okay :D

Date: 5 September 2008 01:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sharaith.livejournal.com
(A little late, but hey... ^__^)

...despite the presence of Herod Agrippa the awesome Jewish trickster (seriously awesome character :)).

Ah, dear old great-uncle Agrippa. :D He was always my favorite king in history class - I really need to get around to reading those books.

I actually didn't like the new Carey as much as the last ones - I just felt that everything was so easy. I finished the book and my main reaction was: is that it? Yeah, the protagonists overcame insurmountable odds etc etc, but it lacked the internal conflict of the previous books. There were no tough choices or moral dilemmas for the characters.

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