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Two days ago my parents visited and dropped a new furniture (I don't know how to call it, it's mostly decorative with some cupboards too) for my flat and my dad dumped a couple of GOs of blues, jazz, and oldies rock on my harddrive; and then I was bullied into rearranging my book shelves to a result which I admit is a bit neater.

Fun fact now that I can see the books on my shelves better : seems like on most English books cover the title tilts left to right (that is to say the bottom is on the right); whereas on most French books the text is tilted right to left. Funny, no? There's a couple of exceptions, of course, but that's how the big majority goes. I wonder if there's some obscure cultural reasons...

Among the music from my dad, there were some Joan Baez (gorgeous stuff) and a song called Donna Donna, and when I listened to it, I totally cracked up. DAMN YOU ANIME FOR WASTING MY ENJOYMENT OF GOOD MUSIC! Already I can't listen to Carmen without snickering softly to the bemusement of anyone around thanks to Prince Tutu, and now Utena slays my enjoyment of folk XDD
ETA: Having looked up the history of the song on the wikipedia I find the song usage in Utena kinda creepy now O_o

Date: 14 November 2008 03:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sakanagi.livejournal.com
Donna Donna...oh, that Utena song is playing in my head right now. I would have so much trouble listening to a song with the same title. *snickering*

Why does Princess Tutu slay Carmen? Femio, is it?

Date: 14 November 2008 03:02 am (UTC)
ext_2023: (creepy anthy)
From: [identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com
It's not just a song with the same title! It's the same song! See the wikipedia link I give above, it's originally a yiddish song but got translated in many languages among Japanese and English!

it is
Edited Date: 14 November 2008 03:03 am (UTC)

Date: 14 November 2008 03:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sakanagi.livejournal.com
*has no idea about the Carmen thing, then*

Good grief, that Donna Donna song from Utena really is depressing once it's taken out of context. I'd had no idea it was an already-existing song. Though it did sound quite different from the other ones.

Date: 14 November 2008 03:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sakanagi.livejournal.com
Oops, I replied to that comment before I saw the edited version.

I haven't listened to Carmen very much, but I hope that if I get to listen to it in future, I'll have Femio flashbacks. ^^ Though for someone who already knew and liked the music, I expect that might be different.

Date: 14 November 2008 03:10 am (UTC)
ext_2023: (wtf)
From: [identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com
*has no idea about the Carmen thing, then*
It is Femio.

Yeah, horribly sad song to use for a crackful comedy episode O_o Yeah I kinda thought it might be an actual folksy song from the way it sounded.

Date: 14 November 2008 03:12 am (UTC)
ext_2023: (drama)
From: [identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com
lol I wondered why you'd misread me.

I knew the music before, but I still get Femio flashbacks! Thankfully, I don't listen to it often, when I do it's the musical background of a restaurant or stuff like that XD but I kinda like the music though so it's a bit sad to be snickering everytime.

Date: 14 November 2008 03:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mamculuna.livejournal.com
I see some others are calling it a sad song, but I think it's very political.

Date: 14 November 2008 03:23 am (UTC)
ext_2023: (creepy anthy)
From: [identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com
which might make it all the more disturbing in the context it was used... -> crackful episode where a girl turns into a cow because of a cowbell she wears mistakenly thinking it's high fashion jewellery, an during a dream where her brother sells her, then eat a steak.
(Utena has a high streak of surrealism and has similar totally crackful episodes, usually all about the same girl and with an animal theme to them, you can even rationalise them with the metaphysics of the world once you've watched all the episodes)

Date: 14 November 2008 03:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mamculuna.livejournal.com
That is disturbing! But fascinating...maybe I'll have to look at some of that.

Date: 14 November 2008 03:38 am (UTC)
ext_2023: (femslash)
From: [identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com
disturbingness aside, I heartily recommend Utena, yes! It's an excellent anime series. It's got some flaws : art and animation have a little bit aged since the nineties they were made during, there's a lot of repetition of sequences and it's slow to start (there are a total of 39 episodes IIRC), however it's awesome in terms of symbolism, surrealism, psychology of the characters, deconstruction of romantic/fairy tale/shoujo tropes, feminist themes and it just never gets old to analyse and interpret. It's got a dark side to it : lots of implied sex, including incest and most characters are quite young for it, one female character is very frequently slapped; however it's not done in a voyeuristic way like some anime and it's all for the sake of the deconstruction.
So yeah, you have to look at some of this :)

Date: 14 November 2008 03:58 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] rebbe
...oh, that song is so sad D:

Date: 14 November 2008 04:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] modillian.livejournal.com
Mmm, there's probably some fancy designer name for your new piece of furniture, but decorative cupboard sounds good to me.

seems like on most English books cover the title tilts left to right (that is to say the bottom is on the right); whereas on most French books the text is tilted right to left.
...something to think about. Too bad I sold most of my french books so I can't double-check this right off the bat!

Date: 14 November 2008 06:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] schemingreader.livejournal.com
I grew up singing that song. It's very strange to me that it's popular in Japan.

Date: 14 November 2008 08:40 am (UTC)
ext_8655: KotonoxRei (Default)
From: [identity profile] cafecomics.livejournal.com
Donna donna... cette chanson-là ? (lancer la video)

Date: 14 November 2008 09:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peadarog.livejournal.com
seems like on most English books cover the title tilts left to right (that is to say the bottom is on the right); whereas on most French books the text is tilted right to left. Funny, no?

It's all about economics.

Date: 14 November 2008 03:17 pm (UTC)
ext_2023: (chagall)
From: [identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com
celle la même! sauf qu'en anglais et en yiddish les paroles sont différentes :)

Date: 14 November 2008 03:17 pm (UTC)
ext_2023: (don't piss me off)
From: [identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com
Isn't it?

Date: 14 November 2008 03:18 pm (UTC)

Date: 14 November 2008 03:18 pm (UTC)
ext_2023: (fairytale)
From: [identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com
I'm just lacking in vocabulary for words not likely to show up often in SFF books and fandom posts XD

Too bad :'

Date: 14 November 2008 03:19 pm (UTC)

Date: 14 November 2008 06:04 pm (UTC)
ext_8655: KotonoxRei (Kotono retrouve Rei)
From: [identity profile] cafecomics.livejournal.com
Je ne me souvenais même plus qu'elle était dans Utena. ^^; Mais bon, ça fait des années que j'ai pas regardé la série... et je n'ai jamais acheté la dernière cassette.

Date: 14 November 2008 06:32 pm (UTC)
ext_2023: (creepy anthy)
From: [identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com
t'as jamais vu la fin d'utena? Mais c'est mâl ça!!!

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