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01. Who are you?
02. Where on earth do you live?
03. What makes you happy?
04. Fandoms we share:
05. Do you enjoy reading my LJ and if so, why?
06. Interesting fact about you:
07. When and how did we 'meet'?
08. How well do you know me?
09. Describe me in one word:
10. What was your first impression upon meeting me?
11. Do you still think that way about me now?
12. What (or who -- this can be a character) reminds you of me?
13. If you could give me anything what would it be?
14. Favourite quote:
15. After answering all these question, do you want to ask me one in turn?
16. Are you going to put this on your LiveJournal and see what I say about you (if you haven't already)?
Otherwise i have a question about shipping in general for you people. I realize that one of the thing I often adore in ships is triangles. That is to say, whether it's romantic or not, I like it when there's other characters who are involved in the relationship between the two characters I ship. It's the hint of history I like in that. A dialectic of connections that tie together several characters, with love, hatred, friendship, kinship, respect, etc. Past histories that shape everything new that happen between people. Ghosts that accompagny you everywhere, including to bed. People who you fuck because they remind you of someone. People that you fuck so as to fuck up with someone else. Tangled, twisted ties - no men is an island, and no relationship is that either.
It can be as simple as Hokuto's involvement between Seishirou and Subaru, or Seishirou and Fuuma's unrelanting presence to whomever ship KamuixSubaru.
Back when I was in BuffyxSpike, for me, Spike's involvement with Drusila and both Spike and Buffy's ties to Angel were a very big part of the appeal of the ship.
My liking of TatsumixWatari stems a lot from my liking of TatsumixTsuzuki, I see one ship as an outgrow of the other. A continuum if you will.
With my shipping of Remus and Snape, I like the fact that both men have a rather lauded history, which includes other person. Sirius is often (alive or not) going to be a presence in between, James and Lucius also might be.
My points is, I have the impression this fondness is not very popular in Fandom. I can think of fics with those, of course, and fics I adored, but another trend in shipping is to propone the pairing you like best so much that is has to be the, well, One True Pairing. Which leaves very little room for other characters in between, especially if their involvement was also romantic. Which includes bashing past partners and rival pairings in an effort to erase these ghosts and, I suppose, make the characters of the pairing closer and Truer. A lot of the biggest shipping wars thus occur between rival pairings. BuffyxAngel vs BuffyxSpike; SeishirouxSubaru vs SubaruxKamui etc. Anyway, I'm not here to critic this attitude (criticizable as it is) but more to point to it as a symptom of one of the effect of shipping one relationship between two persons as being higher and above everything else that they might have.
So, am I alone who finds past (or rival, I like a well done acutal romantic triangle too) a very big turn on ?
And why not seeing more "polyamorous" relationships in fictions too ? I mean, with the extreme variety of sexual behaviour that's displayed in fanfics, you'd think this one would be a relatively tame theme to put in fiction, but I feel like you see very little of it (apart from on the theme of character sleeping around a lot - which isn't exactly the same thing)
I don't mean of it as a threesome or a honnest to good menage à trois either (I don't really adore threesomes , they're too often either porn without plot and very technical at that)
Do you guys have any opinion on the subject ? Do you like to see triangles, romantic or not, in fics or not and why ? Do you prefer OTP or straight away OT3 ?
imadra_blue01. Who are you?
02. Where on earth do you live?
03. What makes you happy?
04. Fandoms we share:
05. Do you enjoy reading my LJ and if so, why?
06. Interesting fact about you:
07. When and how did we 'meet'?
08. How well do you know me?
09. Describe me in one word:
10. What was your first impression upon meeting me?
11. Do you still think that way about me now?
12. What (or who -- this can be a character) reminds you of me?
13. If you could give me anything what would it be?
14. Favourite quote:
15. After answering all these question, do you want to ask me one in turn?
16. Are you going to put this on your LiveJournal and see what I say about you (if you haven't already)?
Otherwise i have a question about shipping in general for you people. I realize that one of the thing I often adore in ships is triangles. That is to say, whether it's romantic or not, I like it when there's other characters who are involved in the relationship between the two characters I ship. It's the hint of history I like in that. A dialectic of connections that tie together several characters, with love, hatred, friendship, kinship, respect, etc. Past histories that shape everything new that happen between people. Ghosts that accompagny you everywhere, including to bed. People who you fuck because they remind you of someone. People that you fuck so as to fuck up with someone else. Tangled, twisted ties - no men is an island, and no relationship is that either.
It can be as simple as Hokuto's involvement between Seishirou and Subaru, or Seishirou and Fuuma's unrelanting presence to whomever ship KamuixSubaru.
Back when I was in BuffyxSpike, for me, Spike's involvement with Drusila and both Spike and Buffy's ties to Angel were a very big part of the appeal of the ship.
My liking of TatsumixWatari stems a lot from my liking of TatsumixTsuzuki, I see one ship as an outgrow of the other. A continuum if you will.
With my shipping of Remus and Snape, I like the fact that both men have a rather lauded history, which includes other person. Sirius is often (alive or not) going to be a presence in between, James and Lucius also might be.
My points is, I have the impression this fondness is not very popular in Fandom. I can think of fics with those, of course, and fics I adored, but another trend in shipping is to propone the pairing you like best so much that is has to be the, well, One True Pairing. Which leaves very little room for other characters in between, especially if their involvement was also romantic. Which includes bashing past partners and rival pairings in an effort to erase these ghosts and, I suppose, make the characters of the pairing closer and Truer. A lot of the biggest shipping wars thus occur between rival pairings. BuffyxAngel vs BuffyxSpike; SeishirouxSubaru vs SubaruxKamui etc. Anyway, I'm not here to critic this attitude (criticizable as it is) but more to point to it as a symptom of one of the effect of shipping one relationship between two persons as being higher and above everything else that they might have.
So, am I alone who finds past (or rival, I like a well done acutal romantic triangle too) a very big turn on ?
And why not seeing more "polyamorous" relationships in fictions too ? I mean, with the extreme variety of sexual behaviour that's displayed in fanfics, you'd think this one would be a relatively tame theme to put in fiction, but I feel like you see very little of it (apart from on the theme of character sleeping around a lot - which isn't exactly the same thing)
I don't mean of it as a threesome or a honnest to good menage à trois either (I don't really adore threesomes , they're too often either porn without plot and very technical at that)
Do you guys have any opinion on the subject ? Do you like to see triangles, romantic or not, in fics or not and why ? Do you prefer OTP or straight away OT3 ?
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Date: 17 August 2005 06:00 pm (UTC)02. Lee's Summit, MO
03. Baby animals, The Lion King, Franz/Albert, Meine Liebe, Kyou Kara Maou, Honey & Clover, watching anime with my sister, showers, being able to go to bed before I am truly exhausted so that I can daydream until I fall asleep.
04. Fandoms we share: Ones that I know of are Yami no Matsuei, X, xxxHolic, Gohou Drug, and Tsubasa.
05. I do. You usually have such interesting posts, for some reason.
06. I don't believe in ghosts or aliens, yet I'm scared to death of both.
07. I still think it was through the wank that went on because of
08. I don't know, how well would you say? :P
09. Intriguing.
10. "Wow, she's really loves Tori Amos."
11. Uh durr. XP
12. Uh.. Tori Amos.
13. A visit. ;_;
14. "Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth." - Oscar Wilde
15. Hm.. none come to mind.
16. Maybe. :X That'll be a surprise, I guess.
And I looooove love triangles. I'm an angst whore like that.
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Date: 18 August 2005 11:57 am (UTC)06. I don't believe in ghosts or aliens, yet I'm scared to death of both.
that's cute, heh ^^
13. A visit. ;_;
Oh, i'd want one ! I'd want one !
"Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth." - Oscar Wilde
Nice one !