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Do people writing this kind of advices about how to deal innocuously with a fic gift that you don't really liked realize that fic writers are going to over-analyse and agonize over innocuous received feedback wondering if everything not specifically and directly praised was a criticism in hiding or is that only me?

meh, I'm feeling remarkably melancholy tonight, I don't know why. I might be starting to do a fanfic reading overdose @_@

Some days I really hate living on a different timezone than most of the people I know from fandom. Especially days when I would really like to hit off someone on im and just chat about something.
At some point, when I was a student and barely going to classes anyway, i was mostly living in the American timezone. I was going to bed at 6am and getting up at 2pm, playing rpg online or reading fanfics all night. It was dizzy and feverish and not exactly happy days... but... I do miss the part where I could talk online instantly with people. I love spontaneity in dialogue, which is something I find missing in livejournal in general. People have such a different "voice" in IM/IRC and when you talk to them in differed time. *yawns* When's the next snupin chat?

Much love to all of you, which is something I should be saying more often. You rock.

Date: 14 December 2006 09:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] summerborn.livejournal.com
On that first part - it's not only you :). The first response to an anonymous exchange I got was something like "I'm speechless - thank you so much!" And I thought.... Oops. :D But oh well. We all do our best and then go home at the end of the day.

Date: 14 December 2006 09:54 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com
lol yes and it's so silly because the person saying they were speechless was probably genuinely trying to make a good compliment, but no matter how things are presented, we'll still find a way to self doubt!

Yes, you're right :) and it's only fanfic, too.

Date: 14 December 2006 09:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] steph-annie2000.livejournal.com
I do feel that way. I want to say... "okay I have ten comments how many of them are simply, "I don't want to hurt her feelings lets find something good about it" comments!" but it's still better then the silence... to my overly panicked mind... At least they found something to compliment. At least they bothered. I didn't realize how stressful this being anonymous thing was going to be.

As far as Instant messaging goes. I find I am absolutely the opposite. I love the slow easy back and forth of lj and message boards, where I could respond instantly or tomorrow and there is no perceived offence. It lets me think things through without that pressure of. "Am I going to sound like a complete idiot?" Which in my real life I have to cringe at ninety percent of the things that come out of my mouth.

I'm sorry you are feeling melancholy, lately. I have been feeling much the same. I've taken to shying away from fandom and distracting myself with my the hecticness of Decemember. Which is so the opposite of how I usually deal. Ah well a change of pace.

I hope you feel better!

Date: 14 December 2006 10:01 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com
there's nothing worse than silence, I agree! So very chilling and anxious, silence is... and. Well. Writing can be such a weird thing. Sometimes I crave for criticism more than I crave for praise because at least it feels like it doesn't lie and there's a ground under my foot, prospect of improvement.

I like boards in general a lot, it's just that sometimes I want something else. Maybe it's because I almost never use a telephone for the purpose of chatting with people (I loathe phones and phones conversation, I use it for practical purpose only) so IM tends to replace that for me when I'm feeling a bit lonely (which does happen even to little anti-social me :))
The cringing happens in RL, in IM, and in boards. Maybe more in board because then I can go back to it, and then wonder why people haven't answered a random comment and cringe back at how stupid I sounded XD

*snuggles again* I think it's just tonight. I'm feeling remarkably good this autumn, with the warm weather we had and the fic fests to distract me from my Holidays Hatred, I feel much much better than I was this winter.
I hope you get to feel better too soon.

Date: 14 December 2006 10:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] steph-annie2000.livejournal.com
I know what you mean. The criticism stings. It makes me angry and sad, but in the end it feels better to come back to the criticism then the empty platitudes. Because when I come back to the story with a fresh eye I see what the critics are saying and the empty compliments feel like lies.

AND

Oh, it's good to hear someone with as equal a hatred of the telephone as I. There are only a few who even bother to call me on it and expect me to answer. I talked to someone I have known for over two years online but never met in person on the telephone for the first time last week and she was all worried she'd offended me because I didn't have anything to say.

I'd much rather Im, and even then I'd much rather e-mail.

*snuggles again* I'm not sure what the deal is with my melancholy, but I'm thinking it comes from too much thinking.

Date: 14 December 2006 10:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] c-mantix.livejournal.com
Bundles of love back at you in the wilds of the European time zone:)

Date: 14 December 2006 10:22 pm (UTC)

Date: 14 December 2006 10:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] klynie1.livejournal.com
I'm generalizing, so this is undoubtedly wrong, but based on my own (bad) habits, I'm assuming that anyone who comments has read all the way through my story, so something must have held their attention. If they've given me their attention that long, I'm totally willing to believe that they mean what they say if they give me even more time by commenting. Of course, I'd bid on a bridge in Brooklyn, too, given the right sales pitch. *g*

Which, in reflection, might be frustrating for someone who wanted to make a diplomatic reference to something I did wrong, since it would likely fly completely over my head. :D

Date: 14 December 2006 10:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] klynie1.livejournal.com
I hit "submit" before I finished: hugs to you! ♥

Date: 14 December 2006 10:33 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com
lol

Now I feel guilty because I never even actually commented on your awesome fic and I don't even know how you found out I had recced you ^^

that sounds like sensible approach, i should definitly do that instead of always second guessing myself.

*hugs back*

Date: 14 December 2006 10:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rexluscus.livejournal.com
...realize that fic writers are going to over-analyse and agonize over innocuous received feedback wondering if everything not specifically and directly praised was a criticism in hiding...

Well, let's face it - I was probably going to do that anyway. ;-)

Date: 14 December 2006 10:34 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com
Point! XD

which is terribly unfair because you're one of the best fanfic writer I know...

Date: 14 December 2006 10:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rexluscus.livejournal.com
Wow, thank you! *blushes*

But I am pretty neurotic. :-)

Date: 14 December 2006 10:44 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com
ain't we all... >_< *points at stoicstella's icon from above*

Date: 16 December 2006 06:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] serpentpixie.livejournal.com
Do people writing this kind of advices about how to deal innocuously with a fic gift that you don't really liked realize that fic writers are going to over-analyse and agonize over innocuous received feedback wondering if everything not specifically and directly praised was a criticism in hiding or is that only me?


Or, you know, why we wonder why why our fic hasn't got as many comments as other fics. And why we click on the journals of those who did comment and get upset because no one has recced your fic - even if they left a nice comment. 'Cause then you get paranoid that they were only being polite.
;)

Date: 17 December 2006 01:47 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com
lol, yes I do that too!

I don't leave comment just to be polite, that's not among the things I do. I'd rather not leave a comment than lie. Honest!

I'm only planning onto reccing Snupin Santa fics because that's the only fest I really follow this year, and I'm doing one rec post a week (one is planned for tomorrow).

I won't rec every fics I've commented on either, because some fics I thought were extra good and that's the one I want to rec... so yes, there's the part where a fic is very good but it's not extremely good... and when you're a writer wondering why's that, it's definitly difficult. I think that's the point where, after the reveals, I'll be begging for concrit for my fic.

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