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Am I the only one to find the whole [livejournal.com profile] burr87 sub-set of the whole Boldthrough kerfuffle deeply hilarious? I mean, for one, [livejournal.com profile] efw itself is obviously a nasty-funny, Fandom_Wank-like community that's rather hilarious and the mocking - while insensitive, misrepresenting & unprofessionnal - isn't extremely off the mark. And srlsly I seem to remember than during Part 1 of this LJ wank Fandom was the one insisting that [livejournal.com profile] burr87 came back to be a spokesperson. Maybe that's why he hates us. Maybe he really didn't like this job. XDDD


For something completely different, there's a fascinating post from [livejournal.com profile] metafandom full of graphs about how LiveJournal is shrinking.


Oh, lastly, I made myself a JournalFen account and I should transfer my fanfics overthere. It's not perfect in terms of managements but I think that right now it's the one Journal I can actually trust a little bit not to go witchhunting happy.

Ultimately, I might keep on this journal for personnal life purpose but I'll probably put all fandom content somewhere else.

ETA : [livejournal.com profile] alighiera has just posted about the LJ Boldthrough story being on big German newspaper Der Spielgel. Woaw O_O;;

Date: 7 August 2007 12:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] metzhead.livejournal.com
yeah everyone's moving to facebook now. it's the Upper East Side of the internet. LJ is like some small artsy cafe in the Village.

Date: 7 August 2007 12:35 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com
I still haven't figured what was the point of Facebook. Is it just exchanging pictures?

LJ is like some small artsy cafe in the Village.
I like that :D

Date: 7 August 2007 01:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icemannorth.livejournal.com
My main concern with Facebook is privacy issues.

At least with LJ you still can stay as anonymous as you like.

Date: 7 August 2007 01:38 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com
That sounds like a good reason to be concerned, yes :(

Date: 7 August 2007 02:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] schemingreader.livejournal.com
It's [livejournal.com profile] burr86. You're making him even younger than he is! Yes, it is deeply hilarious that they picked this clueless person to be the spokesperson on policy. Why was that, exactly?

Date: 7 August 2007 02:12 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com
Because they are even more clueless than he is?

Date: 7 August 2007 02:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] schemingreader.livejournal.com
Or because they really do not give a shit about customers. Their general attitude is, "if you have to ask what is not allowed, then you don't deserve to be here."

I wish they had TOS'ed someone for threatening the president, instead. That would have been very exciting, don't you think? Because a lot of people dislike our president and might say things about him, and no one would be confused about that the way they are about dirty cartoons of Harry Potter characters. (The "threatening the president" issue was one that [livejournal.com profile] burr86 mentioned in his clever little disquisition clarifying the terms of service.

So if I say "oh FUCK GEORGE BUSH WITH NO LUBE!" for example, and they TOS'ed me for it, do you think that LJ would have any more users?

Date: 7 August 2007 02:28 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com
Should I mention that in my lovely country, home of Human Rights, a 19 years old guy just landed himself 3 monthes of jail for insulting our president?

Also "oh FUCK GEORGE BUSH WITH NO LUBE!" squicks me way more than Snarry. Ewww.

LJ's already losing users, it seems. This latter trend won't help. Maybe that's why they care so little about us, because they can't wait to sell the baby to someone else. Honestly most of it makes no sense to me.

Date: 7 August 2007 02:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darksumomo.livejournal.com
Threatening the President and getting TOSsed from LJ, particularly if it were accompanied by a visit from the Secret Service, would get my attention. I give out awards for that.

Date: 7 August 2007 02:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] schemingreader.livejournal.com
Do you think the Secret Service would threaten people for things that LJ would TOS you for, though? Part of the issue with the child pron thing has been that LJ has no clue about what's really considered child pornography or even obscenity. I don't think it's a real threat to the president if I say something like, "though I am a pacifist and non-violent, I wish I could inflict some measure of the pain and suffering Bush has caused other people on his physical person." Is it?

Uh oh.

Date: 7 August 2007 02:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icemannorth.livejournal.com
Name in book!

Date: 7 August 2007 03:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darksumomo.livejournal.com
FWIW, I am also getting a JournalFen account. See you there!

Date: 7 August 2007 03:13 pm (UTC)

Date: 7 August 2007 05:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rumpelgeist.livejournal.com
Efw is Not even like Fandom_Wank really, because they go one step further and mock flame wars so the irony and sarcasm is really lightweight and If someone actually has a Grievance or spite toward a particular type of person they aren't supposed to post there. Like Say I know I tend to be too Intense so I mock intensity to laugh at myself, but I bear me no ill feelings. The problem here is that burr86 does Actually seem to have a Grievance against a particular kind of person (the HP fan) since he mostly says things Against Hp fandom in Efw while the other members just are more general about things. The fact Is that Efw mock people precisely Like him who do have a grudge, which is Why the mod went down on him in the non-sexual, non-fun way. :}

I understand what you are Saying and I too am not angry at him, but I Was somewhat glad other people had no Scruples about telling him off because it Made me feel like now he would understand being Misrepresented better.

I tried to Do Journalfen but They never open the "Create Account" so for now I am in Insane Journal and GJ under This same name.

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Date: 7 August 2007 11:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rumpelgeist.livejournal.com
Have You seen this?
http://www.greatestjournal.com/users/pushdragon/46085.html?page=1#comments

Date: 8 August 2007 11:00 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com
I hadn't. Very funny, thanks for pointing it to me XD

Date: 8 August 2007 11:02 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com
I hadn't realized that burr86 had only spoken about HP fen, that does sound icky of him. Grudgewank and wanka wanking is also looked down upon at F_W by the way, at least in theory.

which is Why the mod went down on him in the non-sexual, non-fun way. :}
Hehe, I love how you said that ^^

I believe that JournalFen recently reopened the account creation... I can look it up for the right link if you're still interested into creating an account there.

Date: 8 August 2007 05:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rumpelgeist.livejournal.com
Oh Please if You ever see they Reopen the account creation please send me a little Message. I v. much want to have all my bases covered because You never know where Fandom will end up. I had been Lurking for a couple of yrs now (since the GoF movie) but only Now came out because Authors have been locking things Up and it Is v. difficult for Lurkers.

Date: 9 August 2007 07:25 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com
this is the page I started from to create my journal : http://www.journalfen.net/paidaccounts/
Basically I paid them for 6 months and requested my account name when mailing the paying stuff. I don't think you can create free account currently.

There's also [livejournal.com profile] leaving_eljay which appears to be done for the express purpose of helping people setting up JF accounts.

Date: 11 August 2007 02:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rumpelgeist.livejournal.com
Thank You! I got an Account. :}

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