is that the smell of newfandom?
9 Jan 2008 11:16 pmYeah so I'm deeply obsessed with Avatar. Sadly from what I've seen so far, the fandom appears to be totally nuts. Shipping wars galore, and bashing, and CAPSLOCK humour (capslock humour is indeed funny... for all of 10 minutes. Okay, the Atla capslock community still appears to be best things for discussions on Atla) and I won't mentionned the jokes based on BUTTRAPED LOLZ. And finding good fics has been difficult (but not entirely impossible). Thankfully there are a few sane people here and now (and I started friending those people. Hi!)
To give you an idea of how obsessed I'm getting with Avatar, I'm watching it all again with a friend. He doesn't like it as much as I do, of course. (I may have over-pitched it), but now that we've finished watching season 2, he's definitly somewhat into it. Although he was all pouty about Zuko going with Azula's plans in CoD. Thought it wasn't in the logical conclusion to the previous characterization (which I disagreed with, way too early yet given the developement given), and that Zuko had no reason to trust Azula (which I agree with, although you can argue he acts anyway without trusting Azula).
On the other hand, that friend is just as in love as I am with Toph. I guess the whole world is ^_^
Hilariously, within a couple of episode of her introduction, he started going on how Toph should hook up with Aang given their personnality and the whole Earth+Air are complements.
me: O_o
friend: And Zuko and Katara would fit better together as well.
me: o_O
me: I kinda like Zuko better with Azula because I love mindfuckery.
friend: O_O;;
me: hey, you're doing more shipping about this show right now than I've ever done!
friend: Nooo, it's not shipping. It's... based upon which personnalities I think would match. I'm not hooking Snape and Harry together because they hate each others and thus it would be subversive and whatever.
me: (But I've never shipped Snarry, wtf?!) Yeah, that's shipping's definition.
Yeah, I guess there really is shipping and shipping XD being involved into a canon relationship's development is utterly different to being intrigued by the idea of a pairing in fanworks. I kinda of like both kinds of shipping in theory, though ^^
To be honest I'm also kinda intrigued by the idea of Toph/Zuko XD They could bond over having had secret identities. In a "He is the Blue Mask, a banished Prince with scores to settle. She is the Blind Bandit, an Earth Bender genius escaping her family's smothering overprotection. Together, theyfight commit crime." way.
(why does Toph's 12-year-old-age doesn't squick me when Aang's 12-year-old-age does? Makes no sense)
Otherwise I shared my theory of Exalted!Avatar with him (an Eclipse who disliked Wood as a fifth element for some reason, went out in the Wyld with retinue of other four Aspects of DB. Wyld energies warped their essence and made it more primally elementally focussed. Creation of plenty of weird fuzion of animals due to Wyld as well. Eclipse creates little own world with Wyld shaping charms. Re-tools his own essence so he reincarnates in classical Avatar patterns. Eclipse goes and learns DB charms. Ta-da!)
And on the topic of Exalted/Avatar fuzion check out this : http://forum.200x-rpg.net/viewtopic.php?id=346
(Don't ask me why, but after TV tropes wiki and sane!people from LJ, RPG.net is the best place to get interesting Atla discussions).
To give you an idea of how obsessed I'm getting with Avatar, I'm watching it all again with a friend. He doesn't like it as much as I do, of course. (I may have over-pitched it), but now that we've finished watching season 2, he's definitly somewhat into it. Although he was all pouty about Zuko going with Azula's plans in CoD. Thought it wasn't in the logical conclusion to the previous characterization (which I disagreed with, way too early yet given the developement given), and that Zuko had no reason to trust Azula (which I agree with, although you can argue he acts anyway without trusting Azula).
On the other hand, that friend is just as in love as I am with Toph. I guess the whole world is ^_^
Hilariously, within a couple of episode of her introduction, he started going on how Toph should hook up with Aang given their personnality and the whole Earth+Air are complements.
me: O_o
friend: And Zuko and Katara would fit better together as well.
me: o_O
me: I kinda like Zuko better with Azula because I love mindfuckery.
friend: O_O;;
me: hey, you're doing more shipping about this show right now than I've ever done!
friend: Nooo, it's not shipping. It's... based upon which personnalities I think would match. I'm not hooking Snape and Harry together because they hate each others and thus it would be subversive and whatever.
me: (But I've never shipped Snarry, wtf?!) Yeah, that's shipping's definition.
Yeah, I guess there really is shipping and shipping XD being involved into a canon relationship's development is utterly different to being intrigued by the idea of a pairing in fanworks. I kinda of like both kinds of shipping in theory, though ^^
To be honest I'm also kinda intrigued by the idea of Toph/Zuko XD They could bond over having had secret identities. In a "He is the Blue Mask, a banished Prince with scores to settle. She is the Blind Bandit, an Earth Bender genius escaping her family's smothering overprotection. Together, they
(why does Toph's 12-year-old-age doesn't squick me when Aang's 12-year-old-age does? Makes no sense)
Otherwise I shared my theory of Exalted!Avatar with him (an Eclipse who disliked Wood as a fifth element for some reason, went out in the Wyld with retinue of other four Aspects of DB. Wyld energies warped their essence and made it more primally elementally focussed. Creation of plenty of weird fuzion of animals due to Wyld as well. Eclipse creates little own world with Wyld shaping charms. Re-tools his own essence so he reincarnates in classical Avatar patterns. Eclipse goes and learns DB charms. Ta-da!)
And on the topic of Exalted/Avatar fuzion check out this : http://forum.200x-rpg.net/viewtopic.php?id=346
(Don't ask me why, but after TV tropes wiki and sane!people from LJ, RPG.net is the best place to get interesting Atla discussions).
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Date: 10 January 2008 12:11 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 10 January 2008 03:33 am (UTC)it is a pretty nice show. Good worldbuilding, great storytelling and characterization. Very funny. Quite refreshing from an American cartoon ^^
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Date: 15 January 2008 03:56 pm (UTC)(btw, tried to read your fic, but I found the formatting too difficult to read, without space between paragraphs :()
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Date: 10 January 2008 02:46 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 10 January 2008 03:30 am (UTC)*cough*
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Date: 10 January 2008 02:58 am (UTC)And yeah, most of the Avatar fandom is pretty batshit D:
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Date: 10 January 2008 03:31 am (UTC)it's an impressive level of batshit, and I used to be in the Harry Potter fandom O_o;
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Date: 10 January 2008 05:21 am (UTC)And, wow, your friend has no clue about how personalities would fit together in romantic relationships. Oh well. I can see why your eyes bugged out at him! Heee.
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Date: 10 January 2008 12:08 pm (UTC)I hate bashing in general. Characters bashing, ships bashing, shippers bashing, authors bashing... it all bores me. Actually I rather liek the Mai/Zuko, it's kinda cute in a horribly awkward teenage way. If you'd ask me my favourite canon ship, I think I'd have to say Maiko. Then again, this is not a series for which I feel very shippy in an involvement with canon way ^^ More like taking it in stride of the show's (excellent) character development.
And, wow, your friend has no clue about how personalities would fit together in romantic relationships.
lol well there's not one receipe for romantic relationship. It was kinda of funny to see a non fandom guy person come up with such ships ^^
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Date: 15 January 2008 03:39 am (UTC)Playing an Aang-based Eclipse who's masquerading as a super special dragonblooded would probably be fun.
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Date: 15 January 2008 03:49 pm (UTC)Yes, it would! But then I'd have to make him into a Dynast (because I ♥ the dynasts to much) and it wouldn't be Aang anymore which would be sad.
On the other hand you can totally make Toph with the DB Earth Awareness charms ^_^
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Date: 15 January 2008 06:40 pm (UTC)Already did! XD Actually she's turning more and more into some bizarre combination of Toph, Mai, and Buttercup the Powerpuff Girl, but I play her in the other game my friend David is running and she's made of win. Hooray for pwning dragon-bloods before you've even Exalted!