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I think I'm in a wanky mood.

Got anything I could wank at? (wait, that sounds dirtier than I meant). Maybe I should actually start following one of these something_rant communities I look down on so much.

Date: 15 May 2008 03:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shiinabambi.livejournal.com
There's always the fuss over the new Tsubasa chapters. (I have an ingenious suggestion, but I want to make sure you've read them first.)

Date: 15 May 2008 03:34 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com
It's tempting, but it'll take me hours to catch up on Tsubasa. I read the french translations 'cuz I don't like reading scanlations much, so I'm down to the Acid Tokyo arc.

Date: 15 May 2008 03:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shiinabambi.livejournal.com
Why don't you like reading scanlations, out of curiosity? You don't even have to download them, you can just read them online. Kind of like reading it at the bookstore. XD

And...man, you're way behind. IMO, Acid Tokyo arc is where it really starts getting good. Nearly everything before the LeCourt arc is too fluffy for my tastes, it's after that that things get nice and dark. :D

Date: 15 May 2008 03:43 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com
Two reasons :

1/ Comfort : it's just not as nice as holding a book in my hands, lazily lying on my bed. It throws off my reading pleasure and for some reason, that's more uncomfortable to me when reading manga compared to reading fanfics vs books.

2/ Rhythm : I prefer to have my story in big chunks than in small bits (I prefer TBP to whatever the names for chapter issues for comics for the same reason)


Hahaha! I've seen lots of people say the opposite of that to me. Since I tend to adore clamp!angst&gore, I think I'll agree with you more though ^^so far Tsubasa has been fun crack rather than very entrancing as such (xxxholic is so much better despite the fact I'm not too fond of Watanuki or Doumeki)

Date: 15 May 2008 03:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shiinabambi.livejournal.com
Eeeeh? How can anyone not like Watanuki and Doumeki? There's like...a law...or something.

I actually got so used to reading scanlations that I like it better than TPBs. The pictures take up my whole 15" screen, as opposed to the tiny little graphic novels. In general I can see the art better. But to each their own.

As to reading it in chunks, after I got to the good stuff, it was just a breakneck race to get current. I couldn't stop. Since you're so far behind, you'd have a good long read ahead of you if you tried to get current. The latest is chapter 190, so....yeah.

At the moment I like Tsubasa better than Holic, but I do like them both very much, and I'm behind on Holic, so my love for it may catch up as I do.

As for anyone who could read a CLAMP series and think that the cute beginning was ANYTHING but a setup for twisted, mindblowing angst, I wonder if they've heard the saying, "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me eight or more times, shame on ME."

Date: 15 May 2008 03:59 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com
Eeeeh? How can anyone not like Watanuki and Doumeki? There's like...a law...or something.
LOL! They've been growing on me, especially Watanuki because he can be a real sweetheart at times (albeit a pretty stupid one), but it may be because I loved so much Lawful Drugs and sometimes they really feel like pale copies of Kazahaya and Rikuou except not as hot charming? Dunno, maybe it's just their character design and expressions.

Since you're so far behind, you'd have a good long read ahead of you if you tried to get current.
True. I'm occasionnally complentating the idea. But not until I get a new computer (I'm currently on a loaned laptop)

Tsubasa better than Holic? You surprise me. That means Tsubasa must be getting really better than it's been before;

As for anyone who could read a CLAMP series and think that the cute beginning was ANYTHING but a setup for twisted, mindblowing angst
CLAMP do have some series which are fluff, quirkiness and sugar from start to finish...

Date: 15 May 2008 04:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shiinabambi.livejournal.com
CLAMP do have some series which are fluff, quirkiness and sugar from start to finish...

Yup. Red Herring and Red Herring 2.

I was told Tsubasa was great and I haaaaad to read it, and I got as far as volume eight and nearly hucked the monitor across the room, because I was promised gore and vampires and suffering, and instead got EBIL BUNNY WABBITS.

...but then, much later, I picked it up again, and the fluff was more bearable because I wasn't fresh from the first eight volumes, so I was able to get to the good stuff. It really does get quite good, IMO.

Date: 15 May 2008 04:28 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com
hahahaha, yeah :)=

EBIL BUNNY WABBITS.
God, i had fluffy mascots. Kero's actually decent half of the time, but Mokona(s) just need(s) to die. Painfully.


I found early tsubasa fun because I kinda love A/U, meta-ness and am a big CLAMP fan who was happy to see a lot of old CLAMP characters XDD

Date: 16 May 2008 04:29 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] solesakuma
Oh come on! She's a fluffy goddess that tastes like ice cream and is the real chestmaster in CLAMPverse!
OK, so I may be biased because the idea of a Pupuuing, fluffy god amuses the hell out of me. XP

Also: I was going to tell you 'No, don't read TRC past Piffle! It turns to mindblowing ansgt!' and then realized that, well, you'd probably like it better. XDDDDDDD
And the latest chapitre has a very very pretty Seishirou/Subaru spread, have you seen it?

Date: 16 May 2008 06:32 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com
It's the fluffy mascot thing, it's just... dunno, not something I like.

Yes, I like angst! Bring on the angst!

Nah, I haven't seen it, what with avoiding spoilers I don't dare look at stuff that may be posted by people :)

Date: 16 May 2008 06:46 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] solesakuma
Oh, I see. I like Evil Fluff. Mostly because I've been told more than once that my evilness is cute. XP

Oh, you'll probably love it when you get to see it then. My S/S loving friends were very happy with it.

Date: 15 May 2008 03:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apapazukamori.livejournal.com
Hehe, well fandom_secrets is always a good place to pick a fight. :)

Date: 15 May 2008 03:39 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com
Oooh, good idea! wait am I likely to get spoiled there?

Date: 15 May 2008 03:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apapazukamori.livejournal.com
Possibly. I got spoiled big time for Serenity D:

Date: 15 May 2008 03:53 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com
oh well so much for that :(

I like your icon :)

Date: 15 May 2008 08:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apapazukamori.livejournal.com
Heee, she was the only thing I liked about the first Kill Bill. Never actually saw the second one. ^^;;

Date: 15 May 2008 09:36 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com
heh, she's my favourite character of the movies. The second one isn't as good that's true enough, although i still like them both.

Date: 15 May 2008 06:07 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] scriva.livejournal.com
be careful, yesterday, someone posted a spoiler for Azula from the book without any warning. I was unfortunate enough to read the first line, but I hope until July I forget about it.

Date: 15 May 2008 06:16 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com
runs away from fandom_secret

oblivatio scriva

Date: 15 May 2008 03:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bitterfic.livejournal.com
I'd be interested in knowing your take on the recent controversy over the Kristallnacht RPG. Based on the articles I’ve browsed in [livejournal.com profile] metafandom, it seems like it’s turned into a discussion on fandom etiquette issues (dog-piling, shunning etc.) while what seems to me like more central issues-- antisemitism for instance, and the way J.K. Rowlings heavy-handed tropes really laid the groundwork for a RPG like this-- have fallen by the wayside.

Date: 15 May 2008 03:52 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com
That's an interesting one (I almost posted about it, but finally I didn't and I'm rather glad I didn't).

My first reaction was more of rolling my eyes at making a big stuff out of it because, yes, it's coopting, and yes it shows a great lack of tact, but the whole world is already coopting the Shoah narrative starting with JKR herself, and usually no one call them on that. I couldn't figure if people were saying a RPG made it somehow more offensive or something (which I would disagree with, i think it's worse when it's done for profit and showing a lot of ignorance). Also the issue of coopting and how much you can take inspiration from real tragedies is a very complicated one, I don't think you can cut the line very easily.

Then I saw the kind of antisemitic abuse that - gosh I don't remember her user handle - had to suffer for daring voicing her objection to the community. It was disgusting stuff and made me want to throw up. Felt ashamed I had actually at first defended those people.

I've been entirely uninterested in the etiquette issues about dog piling or shunning discussions since then.

the way J.K. Rowlings heavy-handed tropes really laid the groundwork for a RPG like this
I wish there were more discussions of this because I know I was ill at ease at DH in particular about this. But i don't think I have enough actual knowledge to argue about it in a convincing way.

Date: 15 May 2008 05:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darkemagick.livejournal.com
The first thing that came to my mind was Fandom Wank, but by the time you know about the wanks, it might already been over.

Date: 15 May 2008 06:10 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] scriva.livejournal.com
You can always start an topic with the title "I think Sansa is one of the best developped characters in ASOIAF" on the forum, or "Catelyn is great and Stoneheart is even better". But that would mean more work for the poor mods.

Date: 15 May 2008 06:20 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com
aaah, the joy of obvious trolling ^^

Sansa is one of the well developped character in ASIOAF and Stonheart deinitly is awesome ^^

Date: 17 May 2008 04:18 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] rebbe
I'd say go troll some Avatar forum or something, but that might end up with you getting spoiled D:

And it would be a bit too easy sldkjflkdjs

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