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"Going Native" sf, anthropology and colonialism by [livejournal.com profile] coffeeandink

There's a recent survey done by the Anti Defamation League about antisemitism in Europe http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3669706,00.html
A lesson in modern antisemitism and this other post by [livejournal.com profile] chopchica talks about it and about her own experience with antisemitism while travelling in Europe. As a French Jew, it's a little bit odd for me to see a post talking about this from the experience of an American on a trip, but actually it's a bit of an eye opener because there are many things I taught myself not to pay attention to just because I'm used to them. I'm also used to see my concerns dismissed and being treated like a pain in the ass when I insist on complaining about the lack sandwich with chicken rather than three different choices of pork or cheese at local RPG conventions.

Over at the westeros board (yes, I still read it, just lurking, shut up), Scott Bakker insists on showing his ass to the public in a thread (and its sequel) about the treatment of women in his books and people who think it's sexist (and people who think any reading about sexism and misogynism in a book is a grave insult that should never be done because it's so awful!! yeahhhhhhh right). On the same thread, several people, especially Kalbear, Maia and needle are being awesome.

There's a Celia Friedman interview at Pat's Fantasy Hotlist with some interesting discussions about sexism in fantasy as well, especially in the comments.

Date: 13 February 2009 11:45 pm (UTC)
solesakuma: (touya/yue)
From: [personal profile] solesakuma
I was going to ask that, actually. XDDD
Because if they go on about how accurate their stories are, there should be Jews and Muslims. I mean, the first Romance-language poems were a mix Hebrew/Classic Arab and proto-Spanish, so they were there. Writing even.

Date: 13 February 2009 11:47 pm (UTC)
ext_2023: (deeper)
From: [identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com
I mean, the first Romance-language poems were a mix Hebrew/Classic Arab and proto-Spanish, so they were there.
Oh! I didn't even know that! Pretty cool!

Date: 14 February 2009 01:12 am (UTC)
solesakuma: (Ohmiya)
From: [personal profile] solesakuma
*puts on her monocle*
Let me educate you about the jarchas:
French scholars believed the first recorded literature in a Romance vernacular was, of course, from Provence. Because, you know, France.

Spanish scholars hated that. Because, you know, France.

So, in the '40s, a Hebrew scholar and an Arabist discovered these old texts in Hebrew in an Egyptian synagogue. There were moaxacas, a common poetic composition, but the refrains made no sense in Hebrew or Classic Arab. But when they tried to read it in Ibero-Romance, lo and behold, it made sense.
And then everyone rejoiced.

Except French medievalists, but who cares?

Date: 14 February 2009 10:31 pm (UTC)
ext_2023: (squee)
From: [identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com
Hahaha! This is awesome. Thanks for telling me. Also I love it's a text with a mix of Hebrew, Classic Arab and Romance language :D

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