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[salinea]

I've just watched the Wolverine movie. It was just as hilariously bad as I expected.

My favourite part was

how they subverted the Women in Refrigerator, and then they killed the woman anyway. For no particular reason, it's just that All Women Must Die. Well, okay, not all women, Nameless Scientist Women and Nameless In The Movie But We Know She's Emma Although For Some Reason She's Not A Telepath got to survive.
For extra offensive cookies there were also a few Fat jokes, and a First Nation myth mentionned without any sight of First Nation people (not that any of the Character of Colour didn't die in the movie).
Anyway there was also a lot of wince-inducing cheesy scenes and naked Hugh Jackman. So it was fun, in that hilariously bad way.

Comments

[a-white-rain.livejournal.com]

Why is there a Wolverine movie? Wasn't there already three?

[etrangere.livejournal.com]

Everyone made this joke already!

[a-white-rain.livejournal.com]

MY POINT STANDS.

[etrangere.livejournal.com]

Well, yes. But it's just not funny anymore.

[mamculuna.livejournal.com]

Nothing wrong with naked Jackman!

[etrangere.livejournal.com]

This is true fact!

[bronze-ribbons.livejournal.com]

Haven't seen it yet, but kirbyfest's writeup KILLED me. =-)

[etrangere.livejournal.com]

ROFL

Thank you for linking me to that XDDD

[nicole-anell.livejournal.com]

I made it midway through one review, and the reviewer UNIRONICALLY mentioned that the movie was full of male relationships and testosterone, but for the ladies there's... some romantic subplot that sounded suspiciously like a fridging. Because you know. That's exactly what we ladies like in our superhero movies.

[etrangere.livejournal.com]

That's exactly what we ladies like in our superhero movies.
Only if we're using it for the sake of a drinking game!

Nah the movie sets up the woman to be killed in an incredibly cliche way where from the first time she shows on screen you start the count down to her death. And of course she dies. But then it's revealed she was not really dead! (by the way, not particularly credible that she passed for dead to Wolverine who has seen a lot of dead bodies in his lifetime - but we'll let it pass for the sake of not!dead!lady) And the whole romance was a ploy from the beginning in order to get Wolverine to go crazy with revenge when she gets pseudokilled! Because the villain was genre savvy and knew how superheroes go when their women they get killed. But lady was blackmailed into her part in the ploy in order to save her sister, and since no woman could not resist the manly appeal of Hugh Jackman she actually did truely love him so she remains sympathetic. Because if she had only be into the ploy to save her sister, but hadn't come to love Hugh Jackman, then she'd have been a Horrible Whore, you know. And at some point she takes a random bullet in a particularly not credible way, and starts dying slowly. Hugh Jackman almost gets a chance to save her but villain intervenes. Then she gets (in a rather cool scene) a chance to at least try to save herself, but wastes it on condemning villain to walk for a long time. Not killing him (which, okay, she has principle); not getting him to save her life. Just walk a long time. That'll teach him! And then she dies. Not in a fridgy way since Wolverine won't even remember her at this point.

It's kind of hilarious how full of fails it all is despite the attempt to actually subvert fridging.

[nicole-anell.livejournal.com]

*buries face in hands*

With apologies to Taylor Kitsch and Hugh Jackman's naked torso: I don't love ya that much. This is a "maybe it'll be on Showtime one day and I'll leave the TV on" kind of movie.

[etrangere.livejournal.com]

When I feel bad because of fridging, I reread this webcomic strip and it makes me feel better. ♥

[flo-nelja.livejournal.com]

For no particular reason : Pour que personne ne puisse expliquer à Wolvie les détails de son passé, non ?

and a First Nation myth mentionned without any sight of First Nation people : Euh, c'est un point négatif ? Ils sont bien, les mythes indiens. Si j'étais instit au Canada, moi aussi, j'aurais envie de les connaître et de les apprendre aux enfants

(not that any of the Character of Colour didn't die in the movie) : Oui, j'avais entendu des bruits qui, en gros, disaient qu'on aurait mini-Storm à la place de mini-Cyclops... mais non.

[etrangere.livejournal.com]

Pour que personne ne puisse expliquer à Wolvie les détails de son passé, non ?
Pas vraiment, il aurait suffit qu'ils soient séparés d'une manière ou d'une autre. Si elle était resté avec Emma mais n'était pas resté avec les X men après par example, ça n'aurait rigoureusement rien changé. C'est juste que les scénaristes voulaient avoir le côté tragique de sa mort. Comme toujours.

Euh, c'est un point négatif ? Ils sont bien, les mythes indiens.
Les mythes indients sont très chouettes. Ce qui est dommage c'est que, de manière générale, quand Hollywood utilise des choses inspirés de mythes indients on ne voit aucun Indiens à l'horizon. Ou on voit des personnages sensés être Indien mais qui sont juste des Blancs un peu bronzés. Utiliser le folklore d'une culture qui est dans un situation de discrimination et d'opression historique assez forte, pour raconter une histoire qui concerne des héros Blancs, c'est assez exploitatif. Ca s'appelle de l'appropriation. C'est un peu plus subtile que d'autres trucs; et personnellement je considère pas que ce soit tout le temps condemnable, ça dépend un peu du comment, mais ça compte aussi.

Oui, j'avais entendu des bruits qui, en gros, disaient qu'on aurait mini-Storm à la place de mini-Cyclops... mais non.
:(

[ariss-tenoh.livejournal.com]

Women in Refrigerator? What do you mean?^^

[etrangere.livejournal.com]

It describes a sexist trope about how stories - in particular superhero stories but it shows up in a lot of action/adventure stories in general - will have a female character whose whole point in the story is dying (usually being murdered) in order to provide angst for a male character (her boyfriend/husband/father/son/manfolk) and propels his narrative by motivating him for revenge or something like that. Women as disposable bodies in the service of men's story IOW. In some case includes when women are "only" raped or depowered or otherwise disabled.

Wikipedia has an overview of it and talks about the history of defining the trope and the source of the name for it. And this is the original website about it. See also the TV Tropes page.

[ariss-tenoh.livejournal.com]

I see. Good name for it.

[solesakuma]

I admit the randomly shirtless/naked Hugh Jackman teeeempts me.

[etrangere.livejournal.com]

he is very tempting. As is Liev. There's a couple of other good actors. But the storytelling overall is sooooooo bad.