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Now that's a compelling kind of pulp. Clock-punk and SCIENCE! and esoteric conspiracies and war of ideas in a very Mage Ascension way, how could I not love it? The storytelling is brilliant, the art and colouring gorgeous; I have no idea where he is going with it, but it's pretty riveting. Hickman confirms himself to be an excellent storyteller - though I'll bemoan how few female characters are.
Carbon Grey
This is absolutely gorgeous and I'm not sure I like it. I dunno, it's a smudge too exploitative for my taste, or it has a little bit of... putting too many cool images all together and try to make something of it? Too video-game-y? I dunno. Well, it's early to tell.
Thor, Straczynski's run
Very good. There's an excellent flow to the storytelling and the art is often wow-y. I like the set up and how it confronts the mundane with the mythic for fun results (though it's sometimes just a little bit too twee). Loki's machination are pretty delightful to see unfold, and the epic action is wonderfully epic when it happens.
Thor, Gillen's run
Very good as well, though I have a bit of a hard time separating it from Straczynski's run and the whole Siege extravaganza in my mind.
Thor, Fraction's run
Definite drop in quality, but still fun so far. (And damn Coipel's art is pretty *_*)
Also I'm feeling just a bit dizzy at difference in style of characterisation of characters between the three authors. Perhaps I shouldn't have read it all so fast.
Loki miniseries by Rodi & Ribic
I think my dislike of the art style makes it hard for me to properly enjoy this. It was definitely not bad, but at the same time I had a hard time really getting into it. I dunno.
(BtW I also read that whole Thor Disassembled storyline about Ragnarock before starting JMS's run. Not really sure what to think of it though, I lacked too much context).
Now that's a compelling kind of pulp. Clock-punk and SCIENCE! and esoteric conspiracies and war of ideas in a very Mage Ascension way, how could I not love it? The storytelling is brilliant, the art and colouring gorgeous; I have no idea where he is going with it, but it's pretty riveting. Hickman confirms himself to be an excellent storyteller - though I'll bemoan how few female characters are.
Carbon Grey
This is absolutely gorgeous and I'm not sure I like it. I dunno, it's a smudge too exploitative for my taste, or it has a little bit of... putting too many cool images all together and try to make something of it? Too video-game-y? I dunno. Well, it's early to tell.
Thor, Straczynski's run
Very good. There's an excellent flow to the storytelling and the art is often wow-y. I like the set up and how it confronts the mundane with the mythic for fun results (though it's sometimes just a little bit too twee). Loki's machination are pretty delightful to see unfold, and the epic action is wonderfully epic when it happens.
Thor, Gillen's run
Very good as well, though I have a bit of a hard time separating it from Straczynski's run and the whole Siege extravaganza in my mind.
Thor, Fraction's run
Definite drop in quality, but still fun so far. (And damn Coipel's art is pretty *_*)
Also I'm feeling just a bit dizzy at difference in style of characterisation of characters between the three authors. Perhaps I shouldn't have read it all so fast.
Loki miniseries by Rodi & Ribic
I think my dislike of the art style makes it hard for me to properly enjoy this. It was definitely not bad, but at the same time I had a hard time really getting into it. I dunno.
(BtW I also read that whole Thor Disassembled storyline about Ragnarock before starting JMS's run. Not really sure what to think of it though, I lacked too much context).
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Date: 5 June 2011 08:10 pm (UTC)But then again I held off on the Straczynski/Coipel run because I worried it would move too slow, so I was obviously wrong about that (it probably reads much better collected) - and that kept me from reccing the Gillen run even though I love it because of how tightly the two dovetail together.
Hickman is a great writer but not terribly good at putting women in his books; when he puts them in, though, they're pretty damn awesome, even if I am bitterly certain he's incapable of writing one as the lead protagonist. See also: FF/Fantastic Four, which ties in to SHIELD and SHIELD Infinity.
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Date: 5 June 2011 08:19 pm (UTC)Rightly so. I'm feeling all sheepish that instead of trusting my wise reccers on LJ/DW and RPG.net I followed the advice of a random person on scans_daily.
But then again I held off on the Straczynski/Coipel run because I worried it would move too slow, so I was obviously wrong about that (it probably reads much better collected)
Haha, yeah, I kind of love decompressed storytelling actually, but I also really prefer reading story in big chunks than in slices of stories monthly (not that it stops me once I'm hooked to a story).
when he puts them in, though, they're pretty damn awesome, even if I am bitterly certain he's incapable of writing one as the lead protagonist.
Yeaaah, that's a shame (I have a big crush on Yo-Yo in Secret Warriors and she barely gets to do anything).
I was putting off FF because on premise, it's probably one of the team of Marvel characters I'm the least interested in, but the quality of Hickman's storytelling is starting to make me re-think that...
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Date: 6 June 2011 02:42 am (UTC)I can mostly tolerate decompressed storytelling when I'm not shelling out three to four bucks a month per issue of it, but sometimes impatience gets the better of me; I've learned that for me it's generally better to trade-wait on anything written by a certain set of writers (Bendis, Brubaker, Fraction's Marvel stuff, Ellis' superhero stuff for Avatar, and others) because otherwise the annoyance value is too high to justify the price.
Hickman's basically writing it like a more personable, less zoomed-out version of SHIELD (you just as much conspiracy-of-ideas and SCIENCE!, but more characterization and different emphasis on the use of those ideas and the ethics thereof), so if you like the one you should in theory like the other.
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Date: 6 June 2011 03:45 am (UTC)Hahahahaha, that is so true XD though i'd probably go crazy if I spent time in only either of those.
This is something I've picked up solely based on my observations since I started lurking on RPG.net's Tangency/Other Media board due to stalking Shadowjack's IWIW Eva and Sailor Moon threads, so it may not be entirely accurate, but it seems true to me at the moment.
Shadowjack's iwiw are all kinds of aweosme, aren't they? I regret failing at following it at some point - not it's just too long for me to catch up x_x
Yeah, back when I had money, I only bought comics in trades; and I expect that when I'll have money again, I'll buy in trades as well. In the meantime, it's really useful to be able to download stuff.
You make Hickman's FF sounds really awesome, I guess I'll add to my tobereadlist of DOOM! (no, not that Doom, no, ARGHHHHHHHHHHH-)
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Date: 5 June 2011 07:18 pm (UTC)Loki est totallement pas sympathique (mais extemement amusant d'une façon Magnificent Bastard) dans l'arc de Straczynski; alors que chez Gillen il a beaucoup plus d'ambiguité morale (j'ai aussi un léger doute en terme de continuité dans la façon dont ses motifs changent dans le temps). (Dans Fraction, ça devient un autre personnage donc ce n'est plus pertinent).
Balder est beaucoup plus tri-dimentionnel est intéressant chez Straczynski, et devient un peu bizarre par la suite (je sais plus si c'est chez Fraction ou Gillen - probablement Fraction).
Fraction est assez "plat" avec Thor, je ne saurais dire qu'elle est la différence exactement, mais elle me semble importante par rapport à Stracyzinski et Gillen. Mais c'est peut etre juste que Fraction est just moins bon en général, en particulier en terme de dialogues.
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