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10 Nov 2011 11:22 pm
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http://hoodedutilitarian.com/2011/11/i-reboot/

It would be a mistake to consider these narratives, however, without the context of their time period. While they might be offensive to some today, these female characters are progressive for their time in terms of what roles women play. Uhura was hugely significant, because she was an officer who had a job that involved more technology and know-how than making coffee; Barbara Gordon was one of the first female action heroes who acted on her own.

It’s relatively easy to compare social values of the sixties and of the current decade, and conclude that the position of women has significantly changed. What remains unclear is whether current treatment of women in fiction has improved proportionately. Reboots, meanwhile, provide the unique opportunity to directly compare the treatment of those values in narrative while taking into account the context of changed social environment. By taking the same story and telling it in two different time periods, one can easily juxtapose the treatment of values against said time periods.

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However, there are some reboots in which the changed role of women in the narrative is not merely a recapitulation, but actually seems to be a regression. That is, not only has the treatment of women in narrative not improved proportionately to the changed role of women in society; some of these reboots would seem significantly behind their source texts even in the sixties. Christopher Nolan’s Batman reboot, J. J. Abrams’ Star Trek reboot, and to some extent Steven Moffat’s Doctor Who sequels and Sherlock Holmes re-imaging in some respects make female characters of the sixties sometimes look damn good.

Date: 10 November 2011 10:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flo-nelja.livejournal.com
Effectivement, c'était intéressant. Merci pour le lien !

Date: 10 November 2011 10:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rosehiptea.livejournal.com
That was an interesting article, even though I'm not familiar with all the fandoms. But I think it got a bit sidetracked with the Kirk/Spock business. I absolutely agree that the Star Trek reboot should have had a better attitude toward relationships that aren't heterosexual. But choosing Kirk/Spock in particular to be seems more like "shipping" than an analysis, especially an analysis of female characters. Or maybe I'm just being weird there.

However, I do have to say that if Sherlock Holmes were female in the BBC adaptation/reboot/re-imagining I'd actually, y'know, watch it.

Date: 10 November 2011 10:58 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com
heh, that bit also made me blink a bit; though it's not a very... shippy blog usually.

I believe there's actually one adaptation of Sherlock Holmes with a girl!Sherlock (well given the sheer number of adaptation, they would have to be one)... can't remember the specific or where I heard of it though.

Date: 10 November 2011 11:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rosehiptea.livejournal.com
Ha, glad it wasn't just me. But I did enjoy the article, definitely, and it made me think.

It rings a bell with me too, but I can't remember at all. I think it was a book, but that doesn't exactly help.

Date: 15 November 2011 12:00 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com
[livejournal.com profile] inboots knows what it is! see bellow :)
Edited Date: 15 November 2011 12:06 am (UTC)

Date: 14 November 2011 11:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] inboots.livejournal.com
my bb - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0115085/

amazing show <3

Date: 14 November 2011 11:51 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com
oh thanks!

and hi :)

eta: err, links doesn't seem to work?
Edited Date: 14 November 2011 11:52 pm (UTC)

Date: 14 November 2011 11:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] inboots.livejournal.com
hello :>

the show was called The Adventures of Shirley Holmes -

http://youtu.be/ptpXq3p1rHw

Date: 15 November 2011 12:00 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com
that sounds adorable! must watch sometimes!

Date: 11 November 2011 04:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imadra-blue.livejournal.com
Really interesting and thought-provoking. I know and like a lot of the fandoms she mtnioned, but they definitely have issues in female representation. That said, I think River Song is a very progressive character for Doctor Who. There are a few problems, but they're relatively minor. She questions the Doctor, acts with her own agency, and proves every bit as capable as he. While I dislike her death sequence (again with the female sacrifice, which is frighteningly common in DW), she is frankly one of my most favorite female characters ever. I'm a little hesitant on the imprisonment thing, and not sure what to make of the Doctor's feelings for her, but she does what most female characters can't do in the show--act as the Doctor's equal in many ways.

The main part I dislike is that someone suggested she would steal the Doctor's thunder if he regenerated as female. Fuck you, DW creators. Just because one lady is awesome doesn't mean you've filled your quota for the series.

Date: 11 November 2011 05:31 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com
Well, I haven't watched Doctor Who so I wouldn't be able to judge ^^

Date: 12 November 2011 06:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imadra-blue.livejournal.com
Ah! Yes, that does impede one's ability to judge. XD Good series, especially seasons 1, 4, 5, and 6.

Date: 14 November 2011 11:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] inboots.livejournal.com
i didn't care for uhura in the reboot, but i'm inclined to see her as an improvement ever since reading this -

http://peri-peteia.livejournal.com/340736.html

Date: 15 November 2011 12:05 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com
That is a great point the post makes indeed.

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