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I don't think i'd posted yet on Black Widow (2010)

So, the Black Widow run by Liu was, like, really, really good. Hmm, why was it so ridiculously short? Great art too, and a great balance of atmosphere and badassness.

Then Swierczynski did a story too, which was okay, I guess.

Then I tried reading Widowmaker but I got bored so I gave up.

And I've finally concluded my reading of the Claremont era of X-Men.

The whole Outback - Siege Perilous era was mostly very weak, messy and aimless, with some highlights like the introduction of Jubilee and Gambit and it does get better by the ending though, when the team start gathering again. (although to my disappointment they never really acknowledge how douchy it was to play dead for such a long time)

Louise Simonson's X-Factor is overall mostly very solid, with a few weaker issues here and there, but I found myself surprisingly interested in those characters (given that I'm hardly a fan of the O5 as a team), also great art

Wish I could say the same of her New Mutants, but she's obviously more interested in her own characters (the X-Terminators one) than any of the previous ones. I do love Boom Boom and Rictor, though, so there's that. And the return to Asgard arc at least was okay.

Excalibur, I kind of love the character dynamics and characters period (well except for Brian), but I usually found it pretty hard following the plots and as a result caring for the stories. Lots of great art though.

Days of Future Present was very good.

I also read Vision Quest and Darker than Scarlet while I was at it, which were okay as stories if... wince worthy at times.


If anyone's still reading and has suggestion for 90's X-Men stuff that are worth bothering with, I'm all ears. Obviously, i'll try PAD's original X-Factor run, I'll continue Alan Davies' Excalibur and will try the Warren Ellis one, there's Lobdell's Generation X and the whole Age of Apocalypse I'll check out. And someone on tumblr persuaded me to try Nicieza's X-Force (I think they have psychic power). Beyond that...




Oh, and for something completely different, I've started reading Starman, which is very good.

Date: 8 July 2012 01:26 am (UTC)
lilacsigil: Black Widow with sights on her (black widow)
From: [personal profile] lilacsigil
I was just showing up to say Warren Ellis's run on Excalibur. Extremely good, with Warren Ellis in his character-loving mode.

And that Liu run on Black Widow was just amazing. Have you read her X-23 series (not the miniseries by other people, though those aren't bad)? I don't like X-23 as a character, as she's often written as an angst-fest, but the series was great.

Date: 7 July 2012 10:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chonaku55.livejournal.com
Excalibur : Brian est l'un des personnages qui met du temps à devenir appréciable, ce qui est étrange, enfin de mon côté, parce que j'aurais tendance à préférer un personnage "humain" comme lui à un modèle plus lisse comme Captain America (même si bon, j'aime bien les moments de geek que Brian a avec Kitty ^^). Et Alan Davis au scénario, c'est super *__* Warren Ellis est bien, même s'il a parfois certains défauts, notamment sur certaines caractérisations qui sont... étranges, mais redevenues normales par la suite, on va dire.

Tu me donnes envie de lire X factor ^^U

Date: 7 July 2012 11:44 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com
Brian cesse d'être un connard à un point? O_o

Hmm je suis pas une grande fan de captain America mais je serais d'accord dans l'absolu. D'un autre côté je ne suis pas sure qu'un Ca bien caractérisé soit si lisse que ça.

Heh :) Y'a au moins un arc que j'ai bcp aimé (The Judgement, je crois qu'il s'appellait).

Date: 8 July 2012 08:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chonaku55.livejournal.com
(Oh un de mes couples préférés :D)

Oui, ça lui a prit longtemps, mais a un moment, il arrête d'être aussi désagréable (et retrouve ses vieux démons dans uncanny x-force, mais c'est... justifié, on va dire).

Hem. Quand je parlais d'un personnage plus lisse, je parlais du fait que... ben, Cap fait très modèle sur qui on devrait prendre exemple, alors que Brian pas du tout. Hum, je me suis très mal exprimé, mais disons que Brian fait plus humain, dans le sens assez négatif du terme. Mais c'est vrai que bien caractérisé, Steve n'est pas plus lisse qu'un autre personnage idéaliste ^^ (tiens, çà me rappelle ses interactions avec Superman dans le cross over Avengers/Justice league, tu l'as lu ?)

Ah sinon, j'ai lu Vision and the Scarlett Witch, c'est vraiment pas mal (et il y a Magneto qui essaie d'être un bon père dedans :) )

Date: 8 July 2012 04:00 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com

Ah sinon, j'ai lu Vision and the Scarlett Witch, c'est vraiment pas mal (et il y a Magneto qui essaie d'être un bon père dedans :) )

Le diner de Thanksgiving? ^^

Date: 8 July 2012 04:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chonaku55.livejournal.com
Entre autre et le fait de bosser avec le "frère" de Vision contre un vilain pour qu'il ne dérange pas Wanda à l'hôpital ^^

Date: 8 July 2012 05:12 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com
c'était quelle issue, ça??

Date: 8 July 2012 05:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chonaku55.livejournal.com
La 12 ! Et c'est la naissance de Tommy et Billy :D

Date: 8 July 2012 06:28 pm (UTC)

Date: 8 July 2012 02:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ruthk.livejournal.com
In all fairness, there is a reason for Brian acting the way he does and it will get better. Claremont didn't have a really good handle on the character, turning him from a decent guy who xcan act like a jerk when he is out of his depth to a pompous humorless ass. DAvid does try to fix some of the damge.
I recommend the Alan Moore / Alan Davis and Alan DAvis /Jamie Delano runs on CAptain Britain to see a better handle on te character (And some damn fine stories).

Also, yay for Starman!

Date: 8 July 2012 03:59 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com
Oh, so it's just Claremont's writing, okay then.

I look forward to him improving then ^^

Date: 8 July 2012 04:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ruthk.livejournal.com
Well, Claremont and other wrtiers taking a cue from him, I'm afraid. Writers who have a good handle on the character besides Davis, Delano and Moore are Paul Cornell 8CAptain Britain and MI13) and Warren Ellis.

Date: 8 July 2012 04:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ruthk.livejournal.com
Oh, and if you enjoy Davis' storytelling on Excalibur, you should take a look at his Clan Destine series.

Date: 8 July 2012 09:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] i-llbedammned.livejournal.com
Widowmaker is boring? That is disappointing.

Date: 8 July 2012 09:29 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com
In my humble opinion. But perhaps I'd have had more interest in it if I had also read the Hawkeye and Mockingbird title before.

Date: 9 July 2012 07:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] silver-sandals.livejournal.com
Haha, I just started on Claremont's run of X-Men! I'm liking it a lot more than current X-Men, that's for sure.

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