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17 Apr 2007 11:18 am
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I've yet to finish the previous meme, but...

Give me a fandom (or a few) you know I know of and I'll tell you exactly what I think of:

1. The first character I first fell in love with
2. The character I never expected to love as much as I do now
3. The character everyone else loves that I don't
4. The character I love that everyone else hates
5. The character I used to love but don't any longer
6. The character I used to dislike but don't any longer
7. The character I would shag anytime
8. The character I'd want to be like
9. The character I'd slap
10. A pairing that I love
11. A pairing that I despise

Date: 17 April 2007 09:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] after-nightfall.livejournal.com
I want to be the one to mention ASOIAF. :-) (And I'm sure someone else will say Utena, which I'm also curious about in connection with you.)

Date: 17 April 2007 09:38 am (UTC)
ext_2023: (asoiaf)
From: [identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com
1. The first character I first fell in love with
I think it was Tyrion, like a lot of people. I remember how much I enjoyed his PoV while reading the first half of the first tome. Arya's always been a big favourite as well.

2. The character I never expected to love as much as I do now
Well, Jaime (duh) ^^ He didn't much tilt my radar until aSoS.

3. The character everyone else loves that I don't
Jon Snow. He feels very vanilla to me, I can find myself caring a whole lot for him. He's a nice kid, just, not my favourite by far.
Oh, and Asha. I really don't like her much, but most people seem to think her uber-cool.

4. The character I love that everyone else hates
Theon i guess. I sorta sympathize with him while still considering him a jerk of the worst sort.
I also love Sansa whom lots of people hate, and Davos and Bran whom a lot of people don't care for much, I think.

5. The character I used to love but don't any longer
I don't love Tyrion as much as I used to. He's still a very cool and compelling PoV, but he disapointed me, from a moral PoV. Hard to explain, but I can't sheer for him murdering his dad and whore. Deserved as it might have been, I don't think it was good for Tyrion. I think he lost a battle with himself. I also think he's on the way to become the next Littlefinguer.

6. The character I used to dislike but don't any longer
Samwell. Didn't care for his Pov in SoS and didn't care much for him before either, but I loved his PoV in FFC.

7. The character I would shag anytime
Oberyn Martel!

8. The character I'd want to be like
Davos, for moral reasons. He's the character who manages to be the most righteous and humble throughout, I think.
I'd love to have more of the Lannister wit, too ^^

9. The character I'd slap
Theon, he needs it.

10. A pairing that I love
Sandor/Sansa, Jaime/Brienne, Arya/Gendry, Jaime/Loras, Littlefinguer/UnCat

11. A pairing that I despise
I don't know... I'm not very fond of Jon/Dany. Cersei's antics where annoying to read, especially the sex parts, so there is those.

have you finished watching Utena by the way? I'm curious to see your final reaction ^^
(I think I did this meme once before for Utena, needs to find it...)

Date: 17 April 2007 09:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] after-nightfall.livejournal.com
I like your reasoning about Tyrion's character development. He's beginning to scare me too, especially some stuff I read about in a Tyrion ADWD spoiler on GRRM's site. Not to go into details, because I don't want to inadvertently spoil you, but he's becoming more and more like an apathetic version of his father. He no longer even cares to think about the consequences of his actions for other, powerless people. It's almost like he hasn't got anything left to believe in.

Of course, everyone wants to shag Oberyn. ;-) And I always thought Dany and Jon would be eminently unsuitable as a couple. I just can't see Jon falling in love with a girl like Dany, or Dany condoning either his indecisiveness from before or his cold authoritarianism from after the LC election. Jaime/Brienne would make a lovely doomed platonic romance, though.

As for Utena - I'm up to the episode with Wakaba being the Black Rose duelist, episode 20, I think. The tone is getting different. I find myself wanting to watch Anthy from the corner of my eyes all the time. She is *not* nice.

Date: 17 April 2007 10:22 am (UTC)
ext_2023: (creepy anthy)
From: [identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com
I've read at least some of these chapters... so, yeah, I could see him being seriously ruthless and bitter, which was not in his initial nature. A sad story.

Oberyn is very very shaggable. I'd shag other characters, of course, but Oberyn's first! XD
I don't see the Jon and Dany's dynamics. I've no idea how they'd interract, how they'd communicate.

Jaime/Brienne... I got into a discussion last week end, because I was nominating it as a reversed Beauty & Beast couple (where the woman's the ugly one), and the people were like O_O "where do you see this as a couple?". So now I'm doubting my ability to see subtext and hints. Reassure me that i'm not inventing stuff?

The tone gets pretty dark and more surrealist at times. I find Anthy fascinating, it's worth keeping track of everything she does. Re-watching old eps like this, you see stuff too.

Date: 17 April 2007 11:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] after-nightfall.livejournal.com
Well, if you read those chapters, then you're already spoiled about Tyrion going to Dany, and I have no more compunctions. :-) I was always hoping that a dragon would give him a new purpose in life, that and being valued by Dany for himself and the knowledge he brings. But I think I'd be scared to trust him with a dragon now.

Jon and Dany's dynamics might be similar to Jon and Stannis, I think. Plenty of room for misunderstandings, a complete unwillingness and inability to relate to the other person and not much romantic potential. :-p

And reassure you about Jaime and Brienne? I'm incredibly surprised that people didn't notice it! I don't just mean the "beautiful blue eyes" and the "half a god and half a corpse" (one of the AFFC moments that almost made me melt) things. Jaime's starting to think of Brienne in similar terms as of Arthur Dayne, and we don't need any more proof about how much he admired the man. His admiration of Brienne is grudging at first, but I think he transcends that some time in the Mummers' captivity. He aids her, and thinks of her when he starts developing scruples and a morality. He knows she can be trusted.

Brienne obviously believes his story about King's Landing, because her initial disgust becomes respect and admiration, too. Not to mention that she dreams of him. :-p

There's definitely something brewing between those two. But in light of Brienne's lack of social graces and Jaime's newfound principles, I doubt that anything physical will ever come of it. Neither of them is on my "will possibly live happily ever after" list anyway. But I'll be happy enough with them being reunited and maybe acknowledging their feelings for each other.

Date: 17 April 2007 11:25 am (UTC)
ext_2023: (this little masochist)
From: [identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com
Well, Dany does have some betrayals coming. I always pegged Tyrion as doomed to be one of them.

Lol Jon & Stannis, exactly. "Whut? What do you want with me?" stuff.

Thank you ^^ To be honest, they did admit respect and affection, just not of a romantic kind. I do think there's a romantic/sexual aspect to their friendship - even if it's never consumed physically in the story (which I have difficulty imagining right now as well).

Date: 17 April 2007 12:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mnemosyne-1.livejournal.com
Harry Potter fandom :D

Date: 17 April 2007 01:37 pm (UTC)
ext_2023: (gryffindor x slytherin)
From: [identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com
1. The first character I first fell in love with
Sirius Black, back when I first read the four first books in French and weren't much impressed with them.

2. The character I never expected to love as much as I do now
Beyond "most of them", I suppose Remus. I warmed up to him by reading essays/discussions shortly after I read OotP, way before I got into fandom.

3. The character everyone else loves that I don't
Bill Weasley annoys me and seems well liked in fandom. I'm not crazy about Hermione either.

4. The character I love that everyone else hates
Percy has some haters but other defenders. There's also Gilderoy, Moody, Barty Jr...

5. The character I used to love but don't any longer
I can't think of any. I didn't like Tonks in HBP but I still love the character a great deal in fics.

6. The character I used to dislike but don't any longer
I didn't care the least about Draco before HBP. Now I'm really fond of it, he's an amusing snotty brat.

7. The character I would shag anytime
Sirius, Percy, Narcissa, Tonks, Charlie & Regulus.

8. The character I'd want to be like
Err... dunno. Most of them aren't very good role models. Minerva's pretty cool, I guess, on some aspects.

9. The character I'd slap
Dumbledore. He irks me a big deal.

10. A pairing that I love
Snape/Remus, Snape/Black, Sirius/Regulus.

11. A pairing that I despise
Sirius/Remus & Severus/Lily

Date: 17 April 2007 04:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] laurus-nobilis.livejournal.com
Princess Tutu?

Date: 17 April 2007 06:10 pm (UTC)
ext_2023: (dance with me)
From: [identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com
1. The first character I first fell in love with
Fakir was, if not love at first sight, then the first character I was deeply intrigued by and interested in.

2. The character I never expected to love as much as I do now
Mythos, I think. I don't usually like Prince Charming types. Then again, Mythos is such a more complex figures.

3. The character everyone else loves that I don't
Neko-Sensei. The wedding proposal was funny the first three times. Then it just got tiresome. Also the whole part where he's trying to get married to his 12 yrs old students is CREEPY.

4. The character I love that everyone else hates
Is there anybody everyone hates? I like whatshisname, the guy with the glasses? Well, in case anybody does dislike him...

5. The character I used to love but don't any longer
None.

6. The character I used to dislike but don't any longer
Aruhi does grow on you awfully. Not that I disliked her first or anything...

7. The character I would shag anytime
They're 12 years old, get out of there you pervert! Fakir and Rue.

8. The character I'd want to be like
Drosselmeye, so that I could write awesome angsty stories, woot.

9. The character I'd slap
Whatshername, Aruhi's blonde friend? Who keeps demeaning her and settign her up for a fall for her own amusement with her big fakely-friendly smile, the hypocrite!

10. A pairing that I love
I'm happy with all sides and diagonals of the main square of characters, but, yeah Fakir/Aruhi, like everyone.

11. A pairing that I despise
Err...

Date: 17 April 2007 05:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bitterfig.livejournal.com
I'll be the one to ask about Revolutionary Girl Utena.

Date: 17 April 2007 06:25 pm (UTC)
ext_2023: (mikage)
From: [identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com
1. The first character I first fell in love with
Tsuwabuki. I had trouble finding a character to like at first, I found them interesting but not likeable. When Tsuwabuki arrived on screen like the little stalker he is, however, it was insta creepy-cute love!

2. The character I never expected to love as much as I do now
Anthy's definitly my favourite! I think she's the real main character, and so fascinating. But it needs us to know her full story.

3. The character everyone else loves that I don't
I'm not overly fond of either Akio or Utena. They're both extremes of course, and because of that I find them a bit flatter than the others.
Akio's expecially is such a slut I can't take him seriously. Utena is too much the hero, I have a hard time with those ^^

4. The character I love that everyone else hates
Shiori I really like and she's often hated. I also like Saionji a great deal which some people hate. Likewise with Kozue.

5. The character I used to love but don't any longer
I'm not much into Tsuwabuki anymore ^^

6. The character I used to dislike but don't any longer
None I can think of.

7. The character I would shag anytime
Kozue. Akio like everyone just to see if he's worth the fuss.

8. The character I'd want to be like
Good rolemodels they are not... hmmm okay : Nanami and Saionji because they're the characters who grow the most through the course of the story. They actually learn from their failures/problems and move on. Sometimes Id like to have a bit more of that.

9. The character I'd slap
Anthy because everyone does it
Chuuchuu, hate the little beast.

10. A pairing that I love
Saionji/Touga, because they deserve each others ^^
I also like Akio/Anthy.

11. A pairing that I despise
Touga/Utena and Wakaba/Saionji, you know, ill adviced pairings.

Date: 17 April 2007 08:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bitterfig.livejournal.com
1. The first character I first fell in love with-- cute lil' blue haired Miki.

2. The character I never expected to love as much as I do now-- Utena herself. When I first started watching/reading I found her too special, too innocent, and too pure of heart. However by the end of the series I felt she gained a great deal of depth and really grew up. Also Nanami who I disliked early on for being nasty and shallow but who became progressively more Intriguing especially in regards to her relationship with her brother.

3. The character everyone else loves that I don't-- I not sure if anyone loves Chuuchuu but I don't. I found him very distracting.

4. The character I love that everyone else hates--I love the incestuous little sisters-- Nanami and Kozue.

5. The character I used to love but don't any longer-- It's only been a few months since I got into Utena so I haven't had a chance to really move away from anyone yet.

6. The character I used to dislike but don't any longer-- I didn't care for Wakaba at first then I realized that realistically Wakaba is the character most like me. Now I like her a whole lot better.

7. The character I would shag anytime--
Kozue. Juri. Saionji-- he's a bit of a jerk but I imagine he'd be very, very good.

8. The character I'd want to be like-- Anthy. She's a bit of a Christ figure and because Christianity was drummed into me from a very early age I still see that kind of sacrifice, submission and endurance of suffering as something to aspire to.

9. The character I'd slap-- I wouldn't mind slapping Touga, the condescending bastard.

10. A pairing that I love-- Again, many many pairing I like. Saionji/Touga, Akio/Anthy, Juri/Shiori, Utena/Anthy, Miki/Kozue, Anthy/Kozue, Utena/Wakaba, Ruka/Shiori, Juri/Shiori/Ruka, Akio/Touga, Touga/Nanami, Mikage/? (I really like Mikage but I haven't figured out a pairing for him yet).

11. A pairing that I despise-- The idea of Touga/Utena and Akio/Utena both make my skin crawl because of the level of manipulation involved (Anthy/Akio also makes my skin crawl of course but somehow that's different).

Date: 17 April 2007 09:19 pm (UTC)
ext_2023: (roses)
From: [identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com
Miki is adorable yes ^^

Wow, you think you're like Wakaba? How so?

The idea of Saionji being very, very good makes me so hot >_>;;

Anthy. She's a bit of a Christ figure and because Christianity was drummed into me from a very early age
I still see that kind of sacrifice, submission and endurance of suffering as something to aspire to.

She is that, too. It's funny there's a Tori Amos song I associate with both Anthy and Karen :
Muhammad my friend, it's time to tell the world
We both know it was a girl back in Bethlehem
And on that fateful day when she was crucified
She wore Shiseido Red and we drank tea by her side

It's all about Mary Magdelen so I think it fits the both of them surprinsingly well. And the whole theme of sacrificed girls.
You must be all over Subaru as well? All the Hanged Man characters (I also always love them, which is funny because i'm not Christian, but I still love the trope)

Ruka/Shiori, Juri/Shiori/Ruka
!!! I thought I was the only who liked these pairings ♥

I really like Mikage but I haven't figured out a pairing for him yet
I don't know either, he's a hard one to pin...

Anthy/Akio also makes my skin crawl of course but somehow that's different
Of course XD

Date: 17 April 2007 10:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bitterfig.livejournal.com
I know that song, I was obsessed with Boys for Pele for months after it first came out. It's perfect for Anthy and/or Karen. I also associate "Crucify" with Anthy because I saw an icon of her run through with all the swords that said "Everyday, crucify myself"... I am very taken with Subaru. I find I can identify with him quite a bit because there's an element of self-pity, of wallowing in grief to his suffering. Like me he can't get over things and move on.

I feel like I'm similar to Wakaba in that my desire to care for and adore others is both my best and worst trait.

I'm dying to write some sort of a Juri/Shiori, Ruka/Shiori, Juri/Shiori/Ruka story but I haven't figured out a premise yet.

Date: 17 April 2007 05:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sidecharacter.livejournal.com
>>; You liked the Weiss Kreuz fandom, too, right?

If not, I ask about xxxHolic. XD

Date: 17 April 2007 06:37 pm (UTC)
ext_2023: (blood sugar sex magick)
From: [identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com
Nah, I'm afraid I never watched enough Weiss Kreuz to have an opinion.

1. The first character I first fell in love with
Yuuko! Boy, I love her! She's so ubercool-snarky-sassy-sexy-powerful.

2. The character I never expected to love as much as I do now
Well, I... occasionnaly like Doumeki. Which is certainly unexpected.

3. The character everyone else loves that I don't
Watanuki.

4. The character I love that everyone else hates
Dunno. I sorta liked the devil's paw girl who got atrociously killed. Does that count?

5. The character I used to love but don't any longer
None, I think.

6. The character I used to dislike but don't any longer
Watanuki, I don't dislike him as much now as I used to, he got a couple of chapters that intereste me.

7. The character I would shag anytime
Yuuko.

8. The character I'd want to be like
YUUKO.

9. The character I'd slap
Watanuki *smirk*

10. A pairing that I love
Clow/Yuuko.

11. A pairing that I despise
Doumeki/Watanuki... I really don't feel the love tonight.

Date: 17 April 2007 08:31 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
XD

Don't feel the love tonight. Not sure why that made me laugh as much as it did. XD

Date: 17 April 2007 05:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bitterfig.livejournal.com
oh, oh, I have another one-- Tokyo Babylon/X1999

Date: 17 April 2007 06:48 pm (UTC)
ext_2023: (sibling love)
From: [identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com
1. The first character I first fell in love with
Sorata was pretty much insta love.

2. The character I never expected to love as much as I do now
Seishirou. I only started liking him during the Call chapters.

3. The character everyone else loves that I don't
I'm not crazy about Kamui.

4. The character I love that everyone else hates
Kusunagi, Kakyou & Yuuto don't get much love, and I do adore them.

5. The character I used to love but don't any longer
None.

6. The character I used to dislike but don't any longer
Daisuke does grow on you.

7. The character I would shag anytime
Karen, Arashi, Sorata.

8. The character I'd want to be like
I'd like to have some of Hokuto's selfless righteousness, she's a force to be reckoned.

9. The character I'd slap
Seishirou. Need I say why?

10. A pairing that I love
HAHAHAHA! Seishirou/Subaru.

11. A pairing that I despise
badly written Subaru/Kamui.


Date: 17 April 2007 07:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bitterfig.livejournal.com
Thanks-- really interesting to get your perspective on the series. I did a version of this too so you wouldn't be doing all the work.

1. The first character I first fell in love with
was-- Seishirou cuz he's evil and likes to torment good little boys (this is a very superficial reading of Sei-chan but that was my first impression).

2. The character I never expected to love as much as I do now-- Karen. I sort of rolled my eyes at the concept of a devote Catholic prostitute but I ended up totally falling for her.

3. The character everyone else loves that I don't-- I don't really dislike any of the characters, I just find some more interesting than others.

4. The character I love that everyone else hates--
Yuuto fascinates but not many other people seem to care for him.

5. The character I used to love but don't any longer
None.

6. The character I used to dislike but don't any longer-- I really didn't care for Nekoi Yuzuriha at first. I thought she was too much of a schoolgirl cliche but she eventually won me over.

7. The character I would shag anytime--
Yuuto, cuz everyone does.

8. The character I'd want to be like-- Karen. I really admire her strength and faith.

9. The character I'd slap-- Anime!Arashi. What is she thinking going over to the Dragons of the Earth? Exactly how is that supposed to accomplish anything. Arashi is too smart for that.

10. A pairing that I love-- So many. Seishirou/Subaru. Yuuto/Karen/Aoki. Yuuto/Kanoe/Satsuki. Arashi/ Sorata. Kanoe/Princess Hinoto. Fuuma/Seishirou. Yuuto/anyone. Seishirou/mom.

11. A pairing that I despise-- I like both Kusanagi and Yuzuiha and I like them as friends but as a romantic couple (Kusanagi/Yuzuriha) the age difference sort of creeps me out.


Date: 17 April 2007 07:33 pm (UTC)
ext_2023: (roses)
From: [identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com
I did a version of this too so you wouldn't be doing all the work.
Cool!
Are you gonna do it about Utena as well?

LOL, Karen's the original whore-madonna, it should cheesy, but it works. She's very awesome ♥

They are parts of the anime I ignore for very good reason x_x I love Arashi most of the time, so... yeah.

Seishirou's mom's named Setsuka by the way (isn't she lovely? I adore her. She's very much a femme!seme XD)

Yeah I can see the creepiness of Kusanagi/Yuzuriha, i guess as long as they never did anything... but othewise o_O

Date: 18 April 2007 06:40 am (UTC)
ext_23477: (SF Nights)
From: [identity profile] dizilla.livejournal.com
Although I only remember the first three or four seasons best, I'd like ask about Buffy! ^_^

Date: 18 April 2007 07:18 am (UTC)
ext_2023: (wild)
From: [identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com
1. The first character I first fell in love with
I think it must have been Willow. I don't quite remember.

2. The character I never expected to love as much as I do now
Dawn, I really liked her character. Okay, maybe I should have expected it, since I always love bratty children ^^

3. The character everyone else loves that I don't
Buffy. Never was very fond of her. Except maybe during season 2.

4. The character I love that everyone else hates
I adore Ethan Raynes, he's sleezy and sexy and just a whole lot of fun ♥ I don't think he's very popular poor dear.

5. The character I used to love but don't any longer
Well, I used to be very much about Spike, and not so much anymore. Not that I spend much time in that fandom anymore.

6. The character I used to dislike but don't any longer
Can't think of any.

7. The character I would shag anytime
Faith! she's so very very hot.

8. The character I'd want to be like
Well, I wouldn't mind getting some magic, so say Tara.

9. The character I'd slap
Xander in the latter seasons. He was okay before, though ^^

10. A pairing that I love
I used to love Buffy/Spike. I'm still rather fond of the idea of Spike/Drusilla and Ethan/Giles.

11. A pairing that I despise
Buffy/Angel ^^

Date: 19 April 2007 01:21 am (UTC)
ext_23477: (Default)
From: [identity profile] dizilla.livejournal.com
That amuses me that you dislike buffy/angel. XD I think that was one of the reasons I watched the show... well that and peer pressure.

And Faith sure is a good looking one. I don't think I really ever grew to like Dawn.

Even though you're not much into the fandom, are you planning to read the new comic book series? I've been tempted to check it out.

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