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[livejournal.com profile] pornish_pixies

[livejournal.com profile] sbrb_blackcest

[livejournal.com profile] afamilyaffair

[livejournal.com profile] shota

[livejournal.com profile] wonkaslash

[livejournal.com profile] brokenboys

[livejournal.com profile] heterocest

[livejournal.com profile] resident_pervs

All deleted by LJ's abuse team.

Looks like LJ declared war on us.

Fine. What's another place that fandom could take over? Any of you have any idea? How's Journal Fen, for one?

ETA: Further information

Snegoruchka Lee

Furiosity

Florahart

Femme

Centralizing information about deleted comms and journals

Another centralizing post about deleted stuff

& About "Warriors for Innocence"

How to back up your journal in a hurry

LJ Abuse Team's response about the deletion of Pornish_Pixies

Write a mail to LJ to complain and ask for information : feedback@livejournal.com

Date: 29 May 2007 09:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redcandle17.livejournal.com
OMG. WTF?! On what grounds did LJ delete [livejournal.com profile] pornish_pixies? This is so depressing.

Date: 29 May 2007 09:28 pm (UTC)
ext_2023: (mindfuck)
From: [identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com
apparently it would tie to an organization called "warriors for innocence" who targets pedophiles. I assume they called LJ's abuse team on a bunch of communities and users which had interests in things like incest and chan.

Date: 29 May 2007 09:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redcandle17.livejournal.com
I admit I would not have cared this much if this had happened months ago. But since my new OTP is technically chan...I'm very nervous about this.

Date: 29 May 2007 09:37 pm (UTC)
ext_2023: (my monster)
From: [identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com
It's a small fandom so you may have luck avoiding it. Then again one Wonka community got targetted and they're hardly big! Otherwise, I'd consider flocking your fics for now (and saving copies if you haven't already).
If you have any fishy thing your interests list removing it might also be a good idea.

Date: 29 May 2007 09:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alighiera.livejournal.com
So much for their statements a few days ago that they knew nothing about fandom-y journals being deleted and that it is all a hoax.

Date: 29 May 2007 09:30 pm (UTC)
ext_2023: (life not seriously)
From: [identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com
Indeed!

I guess we've made ourselves vulnerable by sticking on this place which is corporately-owned. Suddenly the idea of setting up a big archive by the fen for the fen seems like a much better idea than I thought previously!

Date: 29 May 2007 09:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alighiera.livejournal.com
I just sent a mail to LJ asking what this is all about. I'm not in the mood to wait for the story behind this to slowly trickle through.

That fen-run archive is sounding better and better. If LJ hops on the corporate bandwagon here, then I'll let go of my scepticism and just take a leap of faith.

Date: 29 May 2007 09:46 pm (UTC)
ext_2023: (Default)
From: [identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com
Good idea about the mail! Might make them realize they don't want to lose our custom.

Yeah, likewise. We need a platform for legal matter. And we need an official association anyway to defend our interest generally speaking. (RPG as a hobby does, and they're a good model of a co-creative community of people who have no trouble living with money-making and free-exchange co-existing)

Date: 29 May 2007 09:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alighiera.livejournal.com
It's starting to look as though we'll soon not have a choice anymore about how public and official we want to be. Maybe this one is a drive-by-shooting and fandom is getting hit by the stray bullets (looks like it, from what I've seen), but who knows when someone gets it into their mind to go after the evil people who promote gay romance? The RPG scene really sounds like something fandom may do well to look into in terms of how to protect ourselves.

Date: 30 May 2007 08:59 am (UTC)
ext_2023: (Default)
From: [identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com
We couldn't fly under the radar forever and just hope they'll never go after us. Sooner or later there'll be an official trial about the legality of fanfictions.

Date: 29 May 2007 09:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] purple-chalk.livejournal.com
They can take our lives, and they can take our homes, but they CANNAE TAKE OUR PORN!

Date: 29 May 2007 09:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] purple-chalk.livejournal.com
How is this not fwanked yet, is what I want to know. (Also, I've been idly poking at jf, but can't figure out how to get a darn account, they seem kinda hatches-battened...)

Date: 29 May 2007 09:38 pm (UTC)
ext_2023: (Default)
From: [identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com
It just happened. And until someone dramaqueens about it, it's not so much wank as... a disaster?

Date: 29 May 2007 09:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] purple-chalk.livejournal.com
I betcha someone's gonna dramaqueen like two days from now, make it worse for everyone, etc...

Seriously, though. Have you read the Warriors for Innocence thinger? The incendiary language, the aggression, and general outrage over there could very well be a serious threat.

Date: 29 May 2007 09:52 pm (UTC)
ext_2023: (Default)
From: [identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com
Yeah.

Have you seen this : http://liz-marcs.livejournal.com/266024.html
They don't even sound serious! Just random idiot crusaders type who think bashing others is the way to do good.

Date: 29 May 2007 09:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] purple-chalk.livejournal.com
Handy ref. This is getting out of hand, I've never seen something move so fast since that love triangle on [livejournal.com profile] thedressingroom exploded. (Seriously.)

Date: 30 May 2007 02:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darksumomo.livejournal.com
Warriors for Innocence just posted a new entry trumpeting their role in shutting down hundreds of LJ accounts and being very self-righteous about how it's LJ's business which journals they closed, not theirs.

Date: 30 May 2007 03:38 pm (UTC)
ext_2023: (Default)
From: [identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com
Yeah, she's on my flist, I saw. They're really retards, aren't they!

Date: 30 May 2007 03:47 pm (UTC)
ext_8655: KotonoxRei (Default)
From: [identity profile] cafecomics.livejournal.com
Thought so. And yup, they are.

Date: 31 May 2007 01:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darksumomo.livejournal.com
Check out this link, too. These people are even scarier right-wing nutjobs than I thought!

http://community.livejournal.com/dark_christian/830650.html

Date: 31 May 2007 01:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darksumomo.livejournal.com
*blink*

So I was right to report them to crank dot net as "lunatic crusaders in politics" after all!

Date: 29 May 2007 09:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] catiechu.livejournal.com
Wow. What's the story?

Date: 29 May 2007 09:35 pm (UTC)
ext_2023: (Default)
From: [identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com
We don't know yet. But people think it's likely an organiation called warriors for innocence is to blamed.

Date: 30 May 2007 04:20 am (UTC)
ext_22: Pretty girl with a gele on (Default)
From: [identity profile] quivo.livejournal.com
Fine. What's another place that fandom could take over? Any of you have any idea? How's Journal Fen, for one?

I think you have to pay to get in, or be invited or somesuch thing. I do know, however, that I'm definitely going to keep an eye out for somewhere from now on...

Date: 30 May 2007 08:57 am (UTC)
ext_2023: (Default)
From: [identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com
We need a new place, and we need to own this new place.

Date: 30 May 2007 09:52 am (UTC)
ext_22: Pretty girl with a gele on (Default)
From: [identity profile] quivo.livejournal.com
Exactly. I'm so glad I haven't let up on my dream of having an archive of my own, and have come across so many great platforms for it to be built on. It's nice knowing there are firm alternatives to LJ.

Date: 30 May 2007 05:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darksumomo.livejournal.com
I'd be all in favor of journal fen except for the following, from http://catrinella.livejournal.com/151812.html:

"NOTE: JournalFen is currently closed to new free accounts. The only way to get an account right now appears to be getting a friend with a paid JournalFen account to set up a new free account for you. ETA: JournalFen is 18+ only."

I've been thinking about getting a JournalFen account for months (I want to infiltrate Fandom Wank) so etrangere and I and anyone else interested would need help.

It's also been wanked (link courtesy of keelieinblack):

http://www.journalfen.net/community/fandom_wank/1084243.html

*blink* Nice summary, and I've read the letter and the response here:

http://liz-marcs.livejournal.com/266996.html

Date: 30 May 2007 08:55 am (UTC)
ext_2023: (tea love)
From: [identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com
Yeap. Looks like Journal Fen as it currently is wouldn't work very well.

I guess there's also Greatest Journal. I need to research other networking services.

Date: 30 May 2007 02:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darksumomo.livejournal.com
It doesn't help that JournalFen is down, and has been since just after midnight Eastern U.S. time. That doesn't happen often, and the timing is...odd, if coincidental.

Date: 30 May 2007 03:32 pm (UTC)
ext_2023: (Default)
From: [identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com
It's not a coincidence, it's server overload. Too many people want to follow the story.

Date: 31 May 2007 01:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darksumomo.livejournal.com
Strikethrough 2007 crashed Journal Fen's servers! Even so, there are 2000+ wanks. Can you imagine how many wanks there would be if the servers stayed up?

Date: 30 May 2007 04:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mnemosyne-1.livejournal.com
I've gotten a backup journal over at Greatest Journal, and I know that Snegurochka, Lore, McKay, Arionrhod and others are doing the same. Pervy Werewolf and Lupin Snape have comms there, just in case.

Argh! So frustrating...

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