Bite me

[salinea]

Back from the dentist. Teeth fucking hurts. Hurts. Hurts. But not as much as reading about the imbrioglio from Wiscon. (Read about it here, here, and here). The last part thankfully, brings in the good, thinky and fuckyoustillnotashamedsucker part. Yay.

However so not the day for a friend (?) to make pithy comments about my teeth or bad breath which are going to repell men, you know? Not funny in the first place, definitly not funny when I hurt, still not funny when I tell you I don't think it's funny and you keep doing it. Thanks for reminding me how much being a woman, my whole life is supposed to revolve around how attractive I am (or not).

Teeth still fucking hurts.

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[catrionamacnair.livejournal.com]

*hugs*

Nothing worse than toothace, quoth the hypochondriac.

Then again, people with the tact of a drunk hedgehog on cold turkey are probably competing the badness position.

In your situation, I would point out to said person how women certainly got laid during Shakespeare's time, which saw a certain lack of personal hygenie, whereas women being a pain in the arse got burned at a stake.

In my situation, I offer more hugs, a wee dram of whisky, and a lighter in case you need to burn anyone.

[etrangere.livejournal.com]

Thanks! *hugs*

haha, good answer, but would work better if that friend wasn't male.

Mmmmm, whisky! ^_^ Mmmmmm burning...

[xraytheenforcer.livejournal.com]

I saw the Wiscon thing, and contemplated posting about it myself. It depressed me all to hell, though. Socially marginalized nerds picking on the EVEN MORE marginalized fat nerds. Then again, I think back to posts made about Primordial Man on our boards focusing on his weight (which I tried to curtail) and I realize that there is so much fat hate, it's just accepted as rational discourse.

And I don't accept the "but I'm fat myself" argument. I don't see much sympathy for Uncle Toms on the race equation, so why should the high-BMI ones get a pass?

[etrangere.livejournal.com]

In my experience nerds love mocking each others. Sometimes it's fun self-derision I love reading Something Positive myself after all, sometimes it's done in order that at least they are not as bad as THOSER dorks. Now, them, they're the real deal! Mocking people who are even lower than you in the geek social hierarchy has been a method to try to make yourself better since time immemorial.

I realize that there is so much fat hate, it's just accepted as rational discourse.
It's just one of the accepted target try to make a serious argument against it, and unless the people you talk to are somewhat sensitivized to the issue they're going to fall back on "but there's a real problem of obesity" arguments, if they even take you seriously enough for that.


And I don't accept the "but I'm fat myself" argument. I don't see much sympathy for Uncle Toms on the race equation, so why should the high-BMI ones get a pass?
Wordy McWordiness!

[strangerface.livejournal.com]

People should never make jokes to women about their smells. It is known.

Is there a fandom wank entry for this? I feel like I missed out a bit.

[etrangere.livejournal.com]

Yeah, it's way over the line :)


I don't know if it's on F_W. It started on Something Awful, and the Angry Black Woman is, AFAIK, the first blog to mention the issue.

[keelieinblack.livejournal.com]

There's a (biased and rather poorly done, IMO) report on the WisCon thing at unfunnybusiness. Fandom Wank has begun to frown upon people who post reports of things that deal with racism, sexism, and similar topics--it's difficult to mock when the issues involved really are Serious Business.

(etrangere, sorry to hear about your teeth! I hope they feel better soon.)

[sistermagpie.livejournal.com]

Much sympathy for me over your teeth.

Thanks for those links--depressing as this story is...

[etrangere.livejournal.com]

thank you :) it's getting better...

and yes :( coffeandink posted other entries about Wiscon focussing on the awesome panels and stuff like this, I believe :)

[novin-ha.livejournal.com]

WHUT?!

::hugs:: Teeth are the worst. I've got very bad teeth and fear the dentist more than I fear most things.

[etrangere.livejournal.com]

thanks!


and, yes, WHUT?! covers it. The stupid, it burns.

[werthead.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I need to sort my teeth out as well. Haven't been to the dentist since months before I went to Ireland (meant to go in Ireland but forgot that the no-NHS thing meant I'd have to pay a lot for it). Annoyingly, I've started getting more problems with my teeth the more care I've taken of them, which vexes me :-)

[etrangere.livejournal.com]

I waited way too long to visit my dentist, that's why I have a lot of problems right now :'(

[scriva.livejournal.com]

Offers more virtual whiskey against the pain and more hugs against the annoyance. (Azula is annoyed as well.)

[etrangere.livejournal.com]

thank you^^ yay whiskey! yay Azula! :D

[shelled-avenger.livejournal.com]

Hope the teeth start feeling better soon (tooth pain, imo, is one of the worst kinds.) Use as excuse to drink lots of slushies.

[etrangere.livejournal.com]

thank you, it is much better now! ^^

[keynsha.livejournal.com]

Bah si tu veux pas que je continue, surtout ne me relance pas (surtout par SMS) en me disant que c'est pas drôle. C'est de la provocation plus qu'autre chose :-P
Et puis c'est sûr que si tu veux prendre tout commentaire au sérieux et d'un point de vue sexiste, forcément, c'est pas difficile. Bonne chance pour avoir des discussions intéressantes avec les gens à l'avenir ^_^°
'fin la prochaine fois, ça sera plus facile de ne pas prendre de nouvelles, je me fatiguerai pas donc. Ca sera plus "amical (?)" probablement.

[etrangere.livejournal.com]

d'accord, c'est ma faute.

[chaineddove.livejournal.com]

*hugs*

[etrangere.livejournal.com]

*hugs back*

I love your icon!

[rebbe]

Ewww, teeth pain is the grossest. I hope you feel better soon!

[etrangere.livejournal.com]

thank you!

[werthead.livejournal.com]

I completely missed the second paragraph of your post first time round.

So your friend judges the attractivness of people based not on their intelligence, personality or general chemistry, but on their TEETH?

( * bemoans lack of smileys on LJ as I'd put the one with a raised eyebrow going "HUH?" here * )

[etrangere.livejournal.com]

I think he judges attractiveness comes from all of that as well. But apparently bad teeth is a very negative feature! XDDD

[schemingreader.livejournal.com]

"Ah yes, you don't like my teeth. Good thing I've just been to the dentist. Now, when are you going to see the dermatologist about that gigantic fat wart on your neck? Oh, oh, I'm so sorry, I--it's your head, isn't it? Oh, no, I--I feel terrible now, mistaking--sorry."

[schemingreader.livejournal.com]

How's that? Does it work in French?

[sakanagi.livejournal.com]

The things that person who started the Wiscon problem wrote are just bizarre. It's certainly something worth getting irritated about, but...wow. It's a shock to see so much drivel from one person at one time.

I hope your teeth feel better soon! ...And I'm sorry your friend didn't have enough respect for you to stop making offensive jokes.

[etrangere.livejournal.com]

yeah, they are very angry with her. I understand why they are angry though. I'm not sure I can go and say "you shouldn't be that angry!" when I don't have to suffer that kind of prejudices, you know?

Thank you!

[ngblog.livejournal.com]

Gah, poor you !

Courage, le dentiste finira bien par arranger ton problème de dent, hein ?
(Il est vrai aussi que les standards physiques sont plus contraignants pour une femme que pour un homme. Pour la justice, nous aussi exigeons des bishos partout au lieu de nous contenter de mecs réels ;-))

[etrangere.livejournal.com]

Merci :)

Tout à fait d'accord avec toi pour l'objectification du corps masculin!!