Offenses

21 Sep 2008 10:08 pm
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Today I learned of the acronym : "FO, DO" which is used to mean "if you Feel Offended? then you Deserve Offense".

Now I want to kill someone.

Date: 21 September 2008 11:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] harumi.livejournal.com
Well then, we'll agree to disagree. Personally, I find that trolls serve a very useful purpose, one of those being that they're pretty good at revealing your weaknesses.

Even before I got sucked in I had always loved trolls simply because engaging them was fun. Eventually we realize that neither of us really mean what we say and being able to say anything we want to each other is very relaxing.

Yes, I was mocking you. Yes, I thought your overreaction to what was obviously a ridiculous post (did you really think I actually felt that way? Because god damn) was pretty amazing. And you deserved to be mocked for it. Another friend responded with a self-righteous "Well I've got friends who can't escape so you're mean!" reaction which was just as stupid. As far as I'm concerned she deserved just as much trolling.

I do not know what you read in my previous entries to make you believe that I am apathetic enough to wish the world to burn when the downfall of America pretty much means everybody (including me) will suffer for it.

There's a reason why the mocking sentence THE INTERNET IS SERIOUS BUSINESS exists.

Also lol at most people ignoring trolls. If what you said was actually true then there would be no trolls on the internet. The problem with most people is the exact opposite.

Date: 21 September 2008 11:12 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com
Then what the fuck are you still doing on my LJ?

Date: 21 September 2008 11:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] harumi.livejournal.com
Just to let you know that for all your high and mighty offended persona you offended me just as much, and your choice to argue with me indicated a view of my personality that was not only deeply hurtful, but horrifying.

Unlike you though, I don't pretend to be some decent, moral human being and I even thought, at first, that you were playing along. I now see that even before I trolled you that you thought I was an awful human being in the first place.

The question is, why the fuck did you ever friend me?

Date: 21 September 2008 11:24 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com
I'm sorry to have offended you. No, I don't know you very well, or I wouldn't have been blind sighted by all this, including your love of trolls.

I can't remember why I friended you.

Date: 21 September 2008 11:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] harumi.livejournal.com
All right. I'm sorry that I trolled you.

My love of trolls is actually a very recent thing. I spend a lot of time on a board that could only be described as trolling headquarters. I knew these people from way back when they weren't trolls, so I also had the knowledge that these were in fact very intelligent people who were sensitive and thoughtful. They may tell people to go kill themselves but create a support thread and these people will do their best to comfort you, up to and including wiring money to a completely stranger on the internet.

I learned that there were many things that offended and hurt me, but instead of leaving I realized that I didn't have to be hurt or offended. Why was I getting hurt by strangers on the internet?

And that was pretty much the turning point for me.

Because a troll will be offensive, but he/she most likely won't mean what he says, and at the end of the day he's only putting out lures. I learned that what was truly offensive were the people who believe themselves to be better than trolls while saying extremely OFFENSIVE things all the while thinking that they're morally superior.

A troll at least, has the luxury of saying that he doesn't mean a thing he says.

Date: 21 September 2008 11:52 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com
I have no love for self righteous people who say offensive things. The fact that those people are jerks don't make trolls any better, IMHO. The fact that trolls can be darlings to some people don't mean that they can't be hurtful (although hurtful isn't what I call trolls usually, they're just noisy and immature and not worth much minding. Occupationally they're funny but not very often).

Trolls can upset people because people make fools of themselves on their account, and nobody likes looking like a fool. You did make me feel like a fool, and I didn't like it, but I was hurt more by the feeling of betrayal.

You called me high and mighty, do you really think that's me?

Date: 21 September 2008 11:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] harumi.livejournal.com
Precisely: nobody likes to look like a fool, but that's why trolls exist, to showcase what makes you look foolish and you learn from it.

The feeling of betrayal was pretty mutual in my opinion, but I don't care about that now. I forgive pretty quickly, provided that dialogue is available.

That's what you were coming off as. No, I don't think that's what you really are, but it was coming a bit close.

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