30 characters meme #2

[salinea]

Your least favourite character

Bill Adama



At some point of watching nBSG, Adama had the dubious honour of overtaking my previous "most hated character" (which would have been Stannis Baratheon). I think it was "A Day in the Life" that clinched it, though I definitely didn't have much love for the man before.

He was fine until the S1 finale when the narrative made the mistake of not actually killing him (that would have so increased the tension! and send the message that the show had the guts to kill characters who weren't figurants, female or PoC!), but then he just increased in emo-manpain and "everything is always about me" level, and hypocrisy and self-righteousness; especially since unlike with Stannis Baratheon, whom the narrative knows is a gigantic asshole, the narrative seems to think Adama is God's gift to mankind. Seriously! And so many of the audience gobble it up! I remember with shudders the people who nominated Adama as a best father in fiction! What do people smoke? I'd rather have Tywin Lannister as a dad. At least you can safely hate him, whereas Adama always so manipulatively act as if any talking back to him is an act of deep betrayal that hurt him oh so much, the poor dear. Meanwhile, when Lee was trying to tell him his mother had been abusive to he and his brother as children, Adama fucking shut him up so as not to spoil his good memory of his wife. Fuck him. Of course Adama's not just a horrible father; he's also a pretty fucked up commander. He plays favourite to the people who suck up to him with his typical emotional manipulativeness all the time; and played a huge role in the endemic corruption of the power structure that ended up with the Mutiny. Not, of course, that the show would ever play fair (or coherently) with antagonism against their precious Adama and Roslyn (Roslyn mostly managed to stay on my good side by being smarter, and less hypocritical when she was being ruthless; though sometimes barely). And the whole of S4 was a painful, dull mess of wondering why the heck the show were expecting us to find his manpain touching. Yeah, yeah, Roslyn's death by is was totally about how tragic it is for you, Adama. Cry me a fucking river.


1. Your favourite character
2. Your least favourite character
3. Character you’d date
4. Character you’d like to go shopping with
5. Character you’d like as your child
6. Character who would probably be your rival
7. Character you have most in common with
8. Character you look like the most
9. Character you’d bring home to your parents
10. Character you’d never bring home to your parents
11. Character you’d become best friends with
12. Character with your favourite voice/seiyuu
13. Character you’d go camping with
14. Character you wouldn’t mind being roommates with
15. Character you’d want to cook for you
16. Character you wouldn’t mind prancing naked for you
17. Your OTP
18. Character you wouldn’t mind having as a parent
19. Character you’d like to go karaoke with
20. Character you wouldn’t mind having as your butler/maid
21. Character you’d have in your party if you were in a RPG
22. Another OTP of yours
23. Your favourite character of the opposite gender of #1
24. Character with your favorite uniform/outfit
25. Character who would be your band-mate if you were in a band
26. Character you wouldn’t mind having as your boss
27. Character you wouldn’t want to run into in a dark alley
28. Character you’d want personified into a dog
29. Character you’d want personified into a cat
30. Character you’d want to cosplay as

Comments

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[softestbullet]

Ugh, ADAMA. *shakes fist* (Although he's -- well, the actor is Latino, but then they gave him blue contacts to match his white son's eyes, so... I'm not sure if the character is a PoC or not.)

Re: via network

[salinea]

yay network! :D

ah, good point about Adama. I always keep forgetting he's not white, which is mighty unfair to the actor from what I know; and i dunno if that's the way the show handled it with Lee so white and the contacts, and the fact they always pretended that race wasn't an issue as such in BSG-world even though they weren't able to cast it color blind either; or a bit of a cultural difference between the US and Europe.

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[yagathai.livejournal.com]

Adama was a terrible leader, and that's one of the reasons I loved the character so much. If people lionized him for some reason, I think that's a huge error -- it's because of his deep flaws that I liked him.

[etrangere.livejournal.com]

yeah, that point of view I can understand (though I still think the overall narrative of BSG was intentionnally one of praise, as a flawed but great man; than showing him for what he was).

[yagathai.livejournal.com]

What I like about BSG is that the way that it was set up tells us, right off the bat, that these are not the best and brightest. Galactica was a mothballed museum ship, and not the place where the fleet would send their best people. Or their second-best people. Probably their worst people, in fact -- which explains why the crew was so incredibly dysfunctional even before their entire universe was nuked by Cylons. Tigh was a drunk, Adama a disgrace, Starbuck an uncontrollable freak, etc.

[gogoratchet.livejournal.com]

I thought he was a fun character, but yeah a horrible human being. I felt like the writers fell in love with him and weren't able to admit to his flaws...which got really annoying.

I do love Stannis though.

[etrangere.livejournal.com]

I felt like the writers fell in love with him and weren't able to admit to his flaws...which got really annoying.
huh, yes, exactly!

I've mellowed a lot of Stannis. He's an awesome character, but a horrible human being hehe kind of ridiculously pathetic :) I can think of him as amusing now instead of being annoyed ^^

[nicole-anell.livejournal.com]

Ugh, do not get the "Adama is such a great dad/leader" worship AT ALL.

[a-white-rain.livejournal.com]

...how can you think he's a great dad by the end of the series? What the hell.

[yagathai.livejournal.com]

Well, he obviously loved at least one of his kids... ;)

[a-white-rain.livejournal.com]

Love != good dad.

TBH I've forgotten most of everything in the end of the series beyond my rage at Adama. I don't even remember why I was angry.

[etrangere.livejournal.com]

hahahaha i know rite.

[etrangere.livejournal.com]

yeah, he loved Zack so much he pressured him into a career that he had no inclination nor gift for, which, ultimately, was at least one of the factors behind his death.

Great dad.

[etrangere.livejournal.com]

They scare me.

[aubrem.livejournal.com]

I don't feel as passionately about Adama as I do about Stannis - probably because so many people on the SOIAF boards adore Stannis. They consider his rigidness to be strength and principle when in fact it's weakness and cowardness imo. arrrrrrrgggggghhhhh.

[etrangere.livejournal.com]

haha yeah, I hated Stannis much more when I was still hanging out at the westeros board where people would praise his tough manly sense of justice of whatever the fuck they thought Stannis was about.

Peeves can have a lot to do with fandom context.

[after-nightfall.livejournal.com]

Adama - good dad? Good grief. I'd rather have Randyll Tarly for a dad. He's a self-righteous asshole who threatens to kill his kid, but at least he's not an emotionally manipulative hypocrite.

But at least he didn't let Galactica devolve into a Pegasus?