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Date: 27 May 2011 12:50 pm (UTC)Yeah, I could probably appreciate that if not for the whole iconic factor.
how brain-breaking is it that when Dick, the original Robin, hallucinates Robin, he sees Jason?
well, he wasn't going to hallucinate himself?
As a Jason fan, I think it's pretty easy to get motivated for him; like Cass, he hasn't really been in enough things for his ideally-written-self to get dissolved. Like Cass, he's been mistreated so badly that it's not very hard either to realize where OOC happens and be indignant about it.
That makes sense.
and as camp as something very camp. >_> When well-written.
LoL, is he? XD
*refrains from launching link to the Big Damn Bruce/Jason canon scan post of doom at you* *it's very hard, jsyk*
I'd prefer comics recs.
I don't really see Cass' thing for Bruce as chemistry. I think she wants to be him too much to want to do him.
I didn't mean it in term of her wanting to do him... I dunno how to explain. It's just interaction I find interesting and compelling and hot? Except not because then I squick myself XD But she had more with both her biological parents anyway.
She might be willing to do Robin because Batman has this thing for Robin.
LOL I hadn't thought of it like that.
Steph is like a mix of Dick and Jason.
Ooh, that's a fun way to think of Steph, I like it.
And also I am so glad that someone else is not seeing the Babs/Cass.<.i>
Do people ship them usually? O_o
I don't even know who I'd ship with Babs actually. I don't see much chemistry with many people asides from the canonical with Dick which never ends well.
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Date: 3 June 2011 11:39 am (UTC)This is comics canon and hallucinations. He could've totally hallucinated 12-year-old!just-became-Robin!Dick. Or he could've hallucinated the then-current Robin. But no, had to be the Robin who'd never grow up, the Robin who'd never stop being Robin.
Specifically Bruce/Jason comics recs or just about any comics rec?
Batman: Gotham Knights is the Best Series Ever to showcase the Bats as a family, picking up after NML, you just have to drop it after #49.
I'd rec the Brubaker and Rucka years on Batman and Detective Comics, but it might not be entirely to your tastes... Hm. During his run on Detective Comics, Rucka creates an amazing female character named Sacha, and she's the PoV character. Brubaker and Rucka both write a lot about Jim Gordon, and more Jim being awesome and Jim and Bruce being BFF is always welcome as far as I'm concerned.
During those years, there's a three-issue-long Vaughan-penned arc, which is about Bruce's identity issues and in which Dick and Babs play very important parts, and which has lovely Dick/Babs interaction. In case people forgot that Babs tops everything.
I adore the Bruce Wayne: Murderer?/Fugitive storylines. Since they're crossovers they star the other members of the Batfamily. Admittedly not Huntress, but I really like the interaction of the core crew. The consensus is that Bruce is a dick in it, but compared to NML I judge his dickery pretty much non-existent. (I am biased.)
not just Batfamily-centric: Judd Winick's Outsiders. Far from perfect, but generally fun, and genuinely good original characters. You'll have to put up with a few issues of rather OOC Huntress, but it's short and it could be much worse. At least there's funny dialogue.
The canonical Bruce/Jason manifesto: Under the Hood. (which is also the manifesto of Jasonissocamp.)
It's just interaction I find interesting and compelling and hot?
I think I see what you mean. I can't explain it any better, though.
I wouldn't say that people usually ship Babs/Cass, but it's listed on the HoYay page of TVTropes, so apparently someone does. ...And Babs/Steph as well, at which I just throw my arms in the air. (Seriously, how come everyone sees Babs seriously higher on the Kinsey Scale than I do?)
the canonical with Dick which never ends well.
But... what does that ever have to do with shippability? (does Dinah/Shiva ever end well?) Even when they're broken up, they're shippable. And they do have their happy times, too. You just need to time it right.
As for chemistry, I find that Oracle as opposed to Babs has chemistry with everything. Roy tried to have phonesex with her. (Okay, so he flirted. It totally counts! that happened in the Arsenal mini-series, btw.) Oracle could have chemistry with a rock. I think it's because then, she's in control. Babs doesn't do intimacy well, so she doesn't do flirtation or romance often IRL. She does with Dick, because, well, she's in love with him and maybe more importantly, he takes orders. It lets her pretend that she's in control, even though of the two of them Dick is the only one fooled.