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Lately it feels like more and more people are leaving LJ. It's been getting to me a lot. I really hate this. I hate people saying they're leaving and deleting their journals, I hate realising that people have just vanished out and not updated their journals for months or years, too. It feels like most of the life out of LJ (or DW for that matter) has been extinguished, I don't think I see enthusiasm much anymore elsewhere than in kink memes and other forms of anonymous memes (which frankly, I was never very fond of). I think a big part of it is, fandom has spread itself in other places, across different dimensions. Tumblr is great for fanart, gifs and more stream of consciousness squeeing (despite how much I hate the tumblr interface as well as the way people socialize on it and that is A WHOLE FUCKING LOT, and the more I use tumblr - I made an account a couple of months ago - the more I hate it :p); more in depth text based meta, reviews etc. are on various blogs, I guess. Fics are more simple to post on archives. Recs are handled via delicious (yes, despite the last debacle). And - what I miss most - the networking and befriending people based upon fandom, I guess maybe it's happening elsewhere too, on facebook or twitter or somewhere else I don't know about. But, and it's funny, that was one thing I used to criticise LJ for - the way it was mixing a whole lot of different things in the same place, the way it made us have to jungle all those things at the same time, the intersection of those spheres - which was sometimes unwieldy - but in retrospect feels like it was very productive in social interaction. Conversations bouncing from one journal to another, filled with ideas and joy and depth and silliness and resonance - when's the last I've seen that?

These days it doesn't feel like we get much into great conversations anymore. I dunno, maybe it happens elsewhere that what I pay attention to. I've been through a lot of fandoms - maybe too many - and at the same time I've always refused to follow the bandwagon of the next Big Fandom everyone else was following unless I was, you know, genuinely interesting in that big fandom (and most often I wasn't so much, instead I was more into skipping to another media/genre altogether!), which doesn't help keeping ties. And the biggest problem, I've really sucked about keeping my journal lively either, and I've deeply sucked at keeping lively conversation with others on their journals as well. Oh, I've done a lot of perfunctionary updating, so to speak, quick, shallow comments; and silly memes and I've tried to keep talking about fannish stuff - but... I haven't put in it a lot of myself into it. Big part of that was just depression, and not knowing how to deal with situation in life. I don't want to talk about this much. I don't like talking about it. It feels too shameful, and too vulnerable, and too embarrassing all at the same time. And as far as commenting, I have felt way too out of my depth as well as too numb often enough to have anything to say to people. And I always try to escape spirals of self loathing the same way, with avoidance and escapism; which hasn't ended very profitable for social interaction.

But I still treasure all those things. The friendships I have here - brittle and narrow though some of them may be - and the potential for fannish interactions. I depend on it so much. Maybe that is where I err wrong. Of course, things fall apart. Of course, people drift apart - that's not even a specifically fannish thing. Of course, people jump into the newest thing, and sometimes the newest thing isn't the newest fandom, or the newest kind of fanwork exchange, or the newest meme - sometimes it's the newest platform. What do you gonna do. Heh, it's not like I'm unlikely to jump onto the newest thing when it is to my taste, either.

Not sure where I am going with that. I guess I'd just like to have a reason to be hopeful about fannish networking, here or elsewhere, in a way that isn't just about clinging after past glories. Tell me there is some?

Date: 3 December 2011 08:42 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com
No, I agree with you it can't be a full scale replacement, and I wasn't trying to blame tumblr or anything (I know I've seen discussions along those lines some time ago, that's not really what I wanted to address); but to me it seems that LJ/DW interactions are dying out, slowly but inexorably, and it is starting to freak me out.

Date: 3 December 2011 08:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] laurus-nobilis.livejournal.com
Oh, no, I didn't think you had! It's just that I've seen many people actually say they were leaving LJ for Tumblr and... I don't get it.

I know my own flist, for one, keeps getting slower and quieter. I'm not sure if it's because my fandoms are getting quieter or a more general issue.

Date: 3 December 2011 09:03 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com
ah, right! Yeah, me too. :( but, I can understand it can be hard to have the time and emotional investment to be very active on more than a small number of platform. Like, I handled a few myself, but I have no life, and even so, I think I just stop keeping up with one forum or another from times to times.

You're right, I think it's a general issue. But fandom was always what I was most interested in on LJ, and the social interaction I had, even if they weren't fannish, were made thanks to the connection from fandom.

Date: 3 December 2011 09:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] laurus-nobilis.livejournal.com
Yeah, I know how you feel. =( I met a lot of friends through fandom and LJ, and even if I talk to them about many other things now, fandom was the first connection.

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