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top five worst father

5- Bill Adama (Battlestar Galactica) that "do not mistake this for approval" icon is brilliantly accurate. Nothing is ever good enough for Adama, and everything is always about how he feels.

4- Gendo Ikari (Evangelion) They've named the fictional award to bad father for him for a reason.

3- Ozai (Avatar the Last Airbender) to Azula as much as to Zuko

2- Tywin Lannister (A Song of Ice and Fire) for Tyrion and for Cersei especially, though I liked how the TV show high lightened to wasn't exactly perfect with Jaime either.

1- Gerald Tarrant (Coldfire trilogy) the most horrible thing is, he was probably a good father, until he, you know, murdered his children.

Comments

[etrangere.livejournal.com]

You make him sound more... horribly clumsy than malicious. Which makes me understand why runespoor would rate him higher than Cain, while he could be even more harmful to the kids at the same time.

[q99.livejournal.com]

There is *definite* maliciousness involved too, Slade is a manipulator and when his kids are on his side, he uses them like tools often enough. If he thinks it's for their own good, he has no problem hurting them himself. He arranged for Rose's adoptive parents to be killed when she was in a perfectly safe situation threatened by no-one in order to get her back with him, for example.

Cain's a specific type of bad parent, paired with a lot of care and love that means if he thinks something will hurt Cassandra for real, he won't do it. Slade's a bad parent who realizes he's a bad parent and thus changes his approach occasionally, but cares more about being Deathstroke than his love for them no matter his approach, so using them in Deathstroke plans ultimately takes priority over their happiness or what they want.

[etrangere.livejournal.com]

... got convinced Slade is worse now.

[runespoor7.livejournal.com]

Yeah, that's an excellent comparison.

I'm not completely certain that Slade cares more about being Deathstroke than about his children, but I won't bet on either possibility. I'm not even sure where Adeline ranks compared to the children or being Deathstroke.

if he thinks something will hurt Cassandra for real, he won't do it
I'd say "permanently" rather than "for real". Cass was hurt plenty during Murderer/Fugitive.

"Horribly clumsy" isn't a wrong way to describe Slade's relationships with his kids, though. There's that element too. (and I'm a sucker for this: his response to that is to go after them to drive them away into the arms of the Titans and count on that team to protect them.)

[q99.livejournal.com]

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I'd say "permanently" rather than "for real". Cass was hurt plenty during Murderer/Fugitive.-

True. There he did think there was a lose-lose going on. If Batman couldn't live up to Cassandra's image of him, then she'd be hurt far worse than what Cain did, so he needed to test Bruce. If Bruce passed and could be Cass's dad... ah well, as long as she's happy. If he didn't, then better sooner than later for her.

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"Horribly clumsy" isn't a wrong way to describe Slade's relationships with his kids, though. There's that element too. (and I'm a sucker for this: his response to that is to go after them to drive them away into the arms of the Titans and count on that team to protect them.)-

Yea. "I'm horribly unsafe for my kids to be around... I know, I'll create a team of supervillains to reunite them and scare them into turning to the Titans for protection to keep away from me!

"What? Send them a letter saying I'm out of their lives from an anonymous location, then just avoid them? Huh, that thought never occurred to me."

[runespoor7.livejournal.com]

Send them a letter saying I'm out of their lives from an anonymous location, then just avoid them?
But then he would lose all hypothetical chances to get them to join him! And he would miss on seeing how good they are at what they do. How good he's parly responsible for making them.

Slade is so egotistical.

[q99.livejournal.com]

Yea, even when he does a plan specifically to get them away from him, it's all about him.